To Date Trudeau Liberals Have Built Zero Housing & Continue the Canadian Housing Catastrophe!

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NorthReport
To Date Trudeau Liberals Have Built Zero Housing & Continue the Canadian Housing Catastrophe!

Never mind the lies and bullshit in the corporate press, most Canadians are being royally screwed over in Canada's housing market thanks to the policies of the Trudeau Liberals. At one time we used to have a national housing program. Co-op housing was being built across the land by the federal government. No more. Canadians have been thrown to the wolves. In BC alone, 12,000 Canadians are now homeless, living without a roof over their heads. In Canada! In wintertime! Thanks Justin I hope you enjoy your winter in the Bahamas, or whatever warm place you and your finance minister go to, to count up your respective offshore tax avoidance assets.

Sean in Ottawa

NorthReport wrote:

Never mind the lies and bullshit in the corporate press, most Canadians are being royally screwed over in Canada's housing market thanks to the policies of the Trudeau Liberals. At one time we used to have a national housing program. Co-op housing was being built across the land by the federal government. No more. Canadians have been thrown to the wolves. In BC alone, 12,000 Canadians are now homeless, living without a roof over their heads. In Canada! In wintertime! Thanks Justin I hope you enjoy your winter in the Bahamas, or whatever warm place you and your finance minister go to, to count up your respective offshore tax avoidance assets.

Why don't you lay out which policies and how they are different from the past if they are? As it is we have no idea where you want to go on this since Canada has had a housing catastrophe in slow motion for decades. It also built up a bubble over more time than the present government has been in power.

I am not arguing with you and suspect you are right. I dislike many of the fixes the Liberals have offered. However, when you make a new thread, it is helpful that you lay out your theory or connect it somehow. Since the seeds of the problem are not new -- please make specific connections to what is. I think people are interested in this topic but cannot add to the thread as you have not really directed it to go anywhere in particular.

 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Are you kidding? We've had a housing crisis for the past 20 years. It just so happens that the Liberals have done squat about it.

NorthReport

 

Question: Why has Trudeau done nothing?

Answer: When you are a one percenter, and your priority is looking after the one percenters, housing is not an issue.

NorthReport

As long as we keep electing the one percenters don't expect anything different. 

NorthReport

Why would we expect people to not look after themselves and their friends?

As long as we keep electing the one percenters don't expect anything different. 

NorthReport

Feds’ housing plan not seen as ‘major game changer’ for desperate buyers

 

http://www.bnn.ca/feds-housing-plan-not-seen-as-major-game-changer-for-d...

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

I recognize that the Liberals have done nothing,just like the Tories. I also recognize that our cities are becoming playgrounds for the rich and graveyards for the poor.

But Trudeau is not a 1 % er...Priviledged,yes..But not part of the 1% 

He's just not rich enough. But his bosses are for sure,I'll give you that.

JKR

Ottawa to build 100,000 new affordable units, recognize housing as 'fundamental right '; CBC News; November 21, 2017.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/national-housing-strategy-1.4411717

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Liberals will target 300,000 existing units for renovation, Radio-Canada has learned

The federal government will outline the details of its highly anticipated national housing strategy on Wednesday, including how it wants to create up to 100,000 new affordable housing units across the country

Radio-Canada, CBC's French-language service, has learned that on top of those new units, Ottawa will target 300,000 existing units for renovation.

The plan will be implemented over 10 years, with some elements still to be announced in 2018.

The government is expected to unveil its housing strategy on Wednesday, National Housing Day, with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in Toronto and Families Minister Jean-Yves Duclos, the point person on this file, making an announcement in Vancouver, two cities with significant housing needs.

The prime minister is also expected to announce how his government will recognize housing as a fundamental right through legislation, sources confirmed.

In their last budget, the Liberals set aside $11 billion over a decade to improve access to affordable housing in Canada.

The Trudeau Liberals could be doing a lot more on housing but they are doing more than the Conservatives did.

NorthReport

How many people are actually living in units that have been built? Zero of course! There will be hundreds of jobs for the one percent planners and basically nothing for the people needing housing.

Mighty Middle Mighty Middle's picture

NDP Housing critic Marjolaine Boutin-Sweet told CBC

"The federal government has a tendency to force provinces to do things to impose things on provinces, we saw it with the marijuana law, and we saw it with the transfers on health. That is what they are doing again and nothing should be imposed. A strategy you should be flexible enough to answer local needs and if it is imposed, and if it is all away across the board the same way, if it is top down. It is not going to answer local needs. People on the ground know what the needs are. And they are the ones who should be working in partnership, not just being consulted. But partnership with the government.

A technique and way of using it (the money) should not be imposed. They know what their needs are. And so they should be able to decide exactly how it should be used. Maybe it works in some provinces, maybe it doesn’t work in some others."

I'm confused, didn't the NDP have a platform with $15 a day daycare where they were going to enforce a similar funding model (60/40) and invloved the same type of consultation that the Liberals are going to be embarking on?

NorthReport

The election was in 2015 It is now almost 2018 How many units have been built. Zero, as it's just another Liberal con job

Mighty Middle Mighty Middle's picture

NorthReport wrote:

The election was in 2015 It is now almost 2018 How many units have been built. Zero, as it's just another Liberal con job

NDP in 2015 - Would impose a  60/40 funding model on child care and would take 8 years to implement

NDP in 2017 - Government SHOULD NOT place conditions on the provinces with any type of funding model and ten years is too long to wait,

cco

That's an interesting observation, MM. Can you think of anything that's changed about the NDP between the 2015 election and the present, something that might perhaps account for a mildly leftward shift in policy?

JKR

Liberals detail $40B for 10-year national housing strategy, introduce Canada Housing Benefit; CBC News; November 22,2017:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/housing-national-benefit-1.4413615

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"[This is a] new, innovative plan that re-establishes the role the federal government must play in housing," Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in announcing the plan in Toronto.

"Housing rights are human rights, everyone deserves a safe and affordable place to call home."  

The ambitious plan promises to tackle everything from homelessness, the shortage of new housing units and repairs to existing units over the next decade, including:

  • Building 100,000 new affordable housing units.
  • Repairing 300,000 affordable housing units.
  • Cutting chronic homelessness by 50 per cent.
  • Protecting 385,000 households from losing an affordable home.
  • Providing 300,000 households with financial assistance through the Canada Housing Benefit.
  • Removing 530,000 households from housing need.

Something tells me the Conservatives won't be happy about this initiative.

NorthReport

This is not some kind of petty little joke.  Lives are at stake for Canadians who don't have housing. 

Mighty Middle wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

The election was in 2015 It is now almost 2018 How many units have been built. Zero, as it's just another Liberal con job

NDP in 2015 - Would impose a  60/40 funding model on child care and would take 8 years to implement

NDP in 2017 - Government SHOULD NOT place conditions on the provinces with any type of funding model and ten years is too long to wait,

Mighty Middle Mighty Middle's picture

NorthReport wrote:

This is not some kind of petty little joke.  Lives are at stake for Canadians who don't have housing. 

Mighty Middle wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

The election was in 2015 It is now almost 2018 How many units have been built. Zero, as it's just another Liberal con job

NDP in 2015 - Would impose a  60/40 funding model on child care and would take 8 years to implement

NDP in 2017 - Government SHOULD NOT place conditions on the provinces with any type of funding model and ten years is too long to wait,

Then they need a better COMMS strategy because the Liberals just lifted the NDP childcare policy and re-fitted it for their Housing strategy. And if the NDP complains, they can just they point to the promises the NDP made on childcare and compare the similarities in strategy.

JKR

Mighty Middle wrote:

NorthReport wrote:

The election was in 2015 It is now almost 2018 How many units have been built. Zero, as it's just another Liberal con job

NDP in 2015 - Would impose a  60/40 funding model on child care and would take 8 years to implement

NDP in 2017 - Government SHOULD NOT place conditions on the provinces with any type of funding model and ten years is too long to wait,

 

Federal Housing Policy ‘Step in Right Direction,’ Says Horgan; The Tyee; Andrew MacLeod; November 22, 2017:

https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/11/22/Federal-Housing-Policy-Step-in-Right-...

Quote:

While he hadn’t yet seen the details Wednesday afternoon, B.C. Premier John Horgan welcomed the release of the federal government’s National Housing Strategy.

“If we’re going to crack the affordability crisis in housing in British Columbia, we’ll all have to work together, so this is a step in the right direction,” Horgan told reporters. 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced a housing strategy Wednesday that included a $40-billion commitment over 10 years.

Horgan said the time frame matches the NDP’s campaign commitment earlier this year. The New Democrats promised 114,000 new housing units would be created over a decade, a goal Horgan today said was “aspirational” and covers a period that will include at least two elections.

 

Seems like the federal Liberals and BC NDP are mainly on the same page.

progressive17 progressive17's picture

Back in the 1970s there was a MURB (Multiple Unit Residential Building) tax credit which was quite popular as an investment vehicle. There may be reason to believe that reinstating it or something like it will spur the building of new affordable housing units.

SeekingAPolitic...

This week I had the local director of housing services in my community on my community tv show.  There is a lot of talk of affordable housing and its good thing too.  But I to want caution, everyone that there is a distinction between "social housing" and "affordable housing".  Social housing is paid(ongoing) for by some level of government and there is a 30% limit on housing cost based on gross income.  In affordable housing, there is no such limit.  

This a good thing dealing with homelessness and housing needs are very good thing.  But the director mentioned the federal government and provincial governments stopped paying for social housing in the 90's(I think this was in context of building new units rather than paying for social existing social housing which both F and P still pay for). Not sure if this means the feds are back in the social housing or all it is affordable housing.  Sometimes people are not aware the distinction between social housings and affordable housing.

lagatta4

Yes, there is a very nice, eco-friendly development just south of me, near Rosemont métro, around a spanking-new library. It includes affordable condos (Quartier 54) as well as social housing: a cooperative and a non-profit.  Cooperatives include housing that remains under market rates, with a percentage (40% in the case of mine; we are trying to raise it to 50% of members, at 25% of income (common here in Québec, though of course the Liberals are trying to raise it to 30%). The "affordable" rate was difficult for many members, although about the only members I know to be on some kind of social assistance have chronic illnesses or disabilities; not to mention those over 65. A hell of a lot of people here, even "educated" make very little money. Low pay, or precarious work in my case, and I'm not alone there.

NDPP

"National Gentrification Strategy. The enlightened capitalism wing of the neoliberal order becoming very skilled in putting a progressive spin on their advancing agenda of inequality and exploitation. This of this as the social policy equivalent of a Justin Trudeau selfie."

https://twitter.com/JohnOCAP/status/934786487740010496