Jagmeet Singh Unable To Answer The NDP Position On China This AM On CTV

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Jagmeet Singh Unable To Answer The NDP Position On China This AM On CTV

Jagmeet Singh appeared on CTV Question Period this morning, and he was asked about China

Specifically China’s ambassador to Canada, Lu Shaye, who wrote in an essay in the Hill Times, which covers Parliament and the federal government, he questioned whether countries such as the U.S. and Britain are truly representative of the international community and he reiterated his government’s assertion that Western countries are employing a “double standard” in judging his country.

“The reason why some people are used to arrogantly adopting double standards is due to Western egotism and white supremacy,” Lu wrote. “What they have been doing is not showing respect for the rule of law, but mocking and trampling the rule of law.”

When asked about that this morning, Jagmeet Singh couldn't provide an answer as he was unfamiliar with the op-ed first asking

"who accused who of white supremacy?"

Evan Solomon had to explain the op-ed to him, then Jagmeet Singh deflected the question talking about Donald Trump instead. Shouldn't Jagmeet Singh be at least reading the Hill Times so he knows what is going on in Ottawa?

This op-ed was even reported on in several national newspapers and made front page news, even internationally.

Go 6:13 into video

https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1585504

Misfit Misfit's picture

Justin Trudeau can't seem to answer questions at his town hall meetings. He just gives political talking points.

maybe Singh and Trudeau are just politicians like many other politicians.

same old same old.

Mighty Middle

Misfit wrote:

Justin Trudeau can't seem to answer questions at his town hall meetings. He just gives political talking points.

Please provide a clip where Justin Trudeau had to ask an interviewer to clarify their question. This is like the third time Jagmeet has been caught on-camera not understanding the question, and has had to ask for clarification.

That is the difference.

Misfit Misfit's picture

Justin Trudeau dodges answer to question on Gender Impact

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/4837456/justin-trudeau-gender-impact-construction-workers/amp/

Yep, and maybe I should open an entire thread about this because this is definitely THREAD material!!!

Lets face it, Justin Trudeau is just too incompetent to be a politician because he dodged a question at a town hall meeting. His career is over!!!

Done!!!

Finished!!!

Mighty Middle

Misfit wrote:

Justin Trudeau dodges answer to question on Gender Impact

Where did he ask for the question to be clarified? There is a difference between dodging/not wanting to answer the question.  And not understanding the question. Trudeau was dodging the question (which you yourself admitted to above)

Jagmeet did not understand and was totally unaware of the situation in China! That is the difference.

Misfit you can try to spin and deflect this all you want, the bottom line is that Jagmeet was caught flatfooted again, being totally unaware of a policy issue on National TV. Again the issue is not dodging or not answering a question (which Trudeau does, all politicians do), it is the fact Jagmeet doesn't know the answer!

Misfit Misfit's picture

This is not thread material Mighty Middle and you are being a hypocrite and nothing more. 

Just your usual nauseating toxic anti-NDP bull shit and nothing more.

Mighty Middle

Misfit wrote:

This is not thread material Mighty Middle and you are being a hypocrite and nothing more. 

Foreign policy is not a thread issue? okay Misfit. Says more about your partisan viewpoint than anything else.

Misfit Misfit's picture

Wrote: "Foreign policy is not a thread issue? ok"

thus isn't a foreign policy thread. It is a slam Jagmeet Singh thread. We have tons of foreign policy threads on babble. This is not one of them.

Oh, and Justin Trudeau couldn't speak off script about violence against women in northern remote communities? His dad could have. Justin just doesn't have what it  takes.

i mean we're talking about violence against women in indigenous communities and that is not a political issue? He just couldn't handle it, right??? 

Isnt this what hypocrisy is all about??? 

Mighty Middle

Misfit wrote:

Wrote: "Foreign policy is not a thread issue? ok"

thus isn't a foreign policy thread. It is a slam Jagmeet Singh thread. We have tons of foreign policy threads on babble. This is not one of them.

Who didn't know his own party's policy on China

JeffWells

Misfit wrote:

Justin just doesn't have what it  takes.

He has the Trudeau name, good looks and the Liberal brand. In Canada, it would seem, that's what it takes.

WWWTT

Misfit wrote:

Justin Trudeau can't seem to answer questions at his town hall meetings. He just gives political talking points.

maybe Singh and Trudeau are just politicians like many other politicians.

same old same old.

No they're not the same. Jag's paerents came to Canada with next to nothing and made a name for themselves. I don't need to explain Justin because we all know that if his father was anyone else, he wouldn't be where he is now. He would actually have to work like the rest of us.

Debater

Mulcair criticized Singh's lack of awareness of the China situation:

Commenting on Singh apparently not being aware of the Chinese ambassador's comments, Mulcair called it "surprising," given the prominence of the ongoing diplomatic dispute between Canada and China, sparked by Canada's arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou.

"It was very surprising that an issue that was on the front pages, not just in Canada, but in New York and in London, there are a lot of people who have paid close attention to what was being said here. It was a pretty shocking statement and I was a little bit surprised to find out that it was news for Mr. Singh," Mulcair said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/war-of-words-current-previous-ndp-leaders-spar-over-state-of-the-party-1.4250560

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

Misfit wrote:

Justin Trudeau dodges answer to question on Gender Impact

Where did he ask for the question to be clarified? There is a difference between dodging/not wanting to answer the question.  And not understanding the question. Trudeau was dodging the question (which you yourself admitted to above)

Jagmeet did not understand and was totally unaware of the situation in China! That is the difference.

Misfit you can try to spin and deflect this all you want, the bottom line is that Jagmeet was caught flatfooted again, being totally unaware of a policy issue on National TV. Again the issue is not dodging or not answering a question (which Trudeau does, all politicians do), it is the fact Jagmeet doesn't know the answer!

This is a load of garbage Mighty Middle. Jag did an absolute fantastic job being interviewed by a white male employed by the corporate imperialist media!

Let me ask you this, what was Justin's responce to the Chinese ambassodor to Canada's article and acusation of white supremacy?

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

Jag did an absolute fantastic job being interviewed by a white male employed by the corporate imperialist media!

It is interesting that in a thread that is about Jagmeet Singh, instead of talking about him, people are deflecting to Trudeau who has nothing to do with this thread topic.

It is safe to assume anyone who tries to pivot this back  to Trudeau, is just a die-hard Jagmeet Singh supporter, unbothered that he has no clue about the NDP policy on China

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Who is Mulcair on the payroll of? He sank the NDP in the last election then clung to power until the party was in distress and now he is taking potshots at the leader.  I used to have a modicum of respect for the man but this latest crap is beyond the pale. This question was a got-ya type to be expected from the MSM. 

Can anyone tell me what the NDP position is on foreign leaders having opinions about our country Was there a resolution art convention setting out the proper response when officials from other countries call our government racist?  China thinks we are a white supremacist country, that opinion seems to be axiomatic for most anti-racism activists in this country. So should he have agreed with the Chinese that we are a racist country or should he have whitewashed Canada's racism? Quick you are on national TV give us the right nuanced answer.

 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Mighty Middle wrote:

It is safe to assume anyone who tries to pivot this back  to Trudeau, is just a die-hard Jagmeet Singh supporter, unbothered that he has no clue about the NDP policy on China

He was not asked about the NDP policy on China he was asked what he thought of the Ambassador calling us a white supremacist country. I am sure that the NDP has no formal policy on what to do when other countries call us on our national character.

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

Jag did an absolute fantastic job being interviewed by a white male employed by the corporate imperialist media!

It is interesting that in a thread that is about Jagmeet Singh, instead of talking about him, people are deflecting to Trudeau who has nothing to do with this thread topic.

It is safe to assume anyone who tries to pivot this back  to Trudeau, is just a die-hard Jagmeet Singh supporter, unbothered that he has no clue about the NDP policy on China

Still waiting for the answer. What was Justin's responce when he tried to answer the same question. Because I'm sure that our unbiased corporate imperialist media holds Justin to the same high levels as they clearly do Jag!

Mighty Middle

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Mighty Middle wrote:

It is safe to assume anyone who tries to pivot this back  to Trudeau, is just a die-hard Jagmeet Singh supporter, unbothered that he has no clue about the NDP policy on China

He was not asked about the NDP policy on China he was asked what he thought of the Ambassador calling us a white supremacist country. I am sure that the NDP has no formal policy on what to do when other countries call us on our national character.

Yes but the issue is also that he had no clue about this op-ed which has been making headlines all over the world. Maybe he could have said "I don't have an opinion" instead of giving the impression he is not keeping track of the issues.

Remember this is not the first time he has been caught on-camera not knowing the issues.

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

Still waiting for the answer. What was Justin's responce when he tried to answer the same question. Because I'm sure that our unbiased corporate imperialist media holds Justin to the same high levels as they clearly do Jag!

"It is unfortunate that China has arbitrarily and unfairly detained two Canadian citizens, and indeed in one of the cases is not respecting the principles of diplomatic immunity," Trudeau said.

The difference is that Trudeau didn't say "who accused who of white supremacy?" when asked the question. As he was aware of the op-ed, unlike Jagmeet Singh who was not aware of the op-ed.

Sean in Ottawa

This is not about not knowing the issues -- it was an unexpected question about a sensitive topic.

I am not a big Singh fan but this is the kind of question many politicians would ahve difficulty dealing with when they come from a party where they are not the sole decision-maker.

Singh would want to be careful of the question and speak to others in the party naturally. It is also a hard question becuase there is no simple answer -- to agree to the statement or to deny it, both would be controversial. The NDP wants to address this real issue but not in the forum of an accusation like this.

What are the people who are criticizing wanting him to have said exactly. And just remember -- you get more time to answer the question than he did.

And no this is not an issue of party policy or issues it is a specific difficult question. How many here could answer it quickly and easily -- I am not volunteering to be able to do that with three seconds warning. Are you?

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Another point that could be respected here: politicians often avoid questions when they don't know what the background of question is about. Singh tried to answer honestly. It is sad that this is seen as a bad thing although I know it will be.

WWWTT

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Mighty Middle wrote:

It is safe to assume anyone who tries to pivot this back  to Trudeau, is just a die-hard Jagmeet Singh supporter, unbothered that he has no clue about the NDP policy on China

He was not asked about the NDP policy on China he was asked what he thought of the Ambassador calling us a white supremacist country. I am sure that the NDP has no formal policy on what to do when other countries call us on our national character.

He was actually very clever and played Even Solomon like a stupid fiddle that he is. He made him repeat the entire question including the phrase white supremist over one more time on national TV! Jag basically got the white male interviewer to do his progressive dog whistle politics for him.

Jag's very clever and has good capacity and is no light weight intellect! He did well in this interview and deserves the support from socialists in Canada!

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

Still waiting for the answer. What was Justin's responce when he tried to answer the same question. Because I'm sure that our unbiased corporate imperialist media holds Justin to the same high levels as they clearly do Jag!

"It is unfortunate that China has arbitrarily and unfairly detained two Canadian citizens, and indeed in one of the cases is not respecting the principles of diplomatic immunity," Trudeau said.

The difference is that Trudeau didn't say "who accused who of white supremacy?" when asked the question. As he was aware of the op-ed, unlike Jagmeet Singh who was not aware of the op-ed.

You have a link?

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

He is incompetent because he doesn't read the Hill Times while he is campaigning in BC. What a load of political bullshit you are shoveling. The question was not concise, it was long winded and convoluted and asked for an opinion on a specific op-ed piece. The kicker of course is there is no right answer. If he slams the Chinese for stating that Canada is a white supremacist country isn't he then just white washing the reality of our country. He is running in a riding were people of European ancestry are a plurality. The majority of the people of Burnaby have lived in the real world of Canadian racial tolerance so I ask people what is the right answer when asked what you think of other people thinking we are racist.

Singh has to up his game to Trudeau's level. Trudeau has mastered the art of answering prepared talking points no matter how remotely connected to the question they be. Singh appears to be still trying to answer questions rather than spouting talking points and that may well hurt him. After all this media shit storm is the reason that none of our politicians talk outside of their briefs.

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

You have a link?

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1424453187932

Mighty Middle

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Singh has to up his game to Trudeau's level. Trudeau has mastered the art of answering prepared talking points no matter how remotely connected to the question they be. Singh appears to be still trying to answer questions rather than spouting talking points and that may well hurt him. After all this media shit storm is the reason that none of our politicians talk outside of their briefs.

That I would agree with. btw his answer this AM on CTV Question Period is generating a ton of talk on Social Media, and not in a good way.

Debater

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

This is not about not knowing the issues -- it was an unexpected question about a sensitive topic.

I am not a big Singh fan but this is the kind of question many politicians would ahve difficulty dealing with when they come from a party where they are not the sole decision-maker.

But it's not just the media criticizing Singh, Mulcair himself said that Singh should have known about the China issue:

"It was very surprising that an issue that was on the front pages, not just in Canada, but in New York and in London, there are a lot of people who have paid close attention to what was being said here. It was a pretty shocking statement and I was a little bit surprised to find out that it was news for Mr. Singh," Mulcair said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/war-of-words-current-previous-ndp-leaders-spar-over-state-of-the-party-1.4250560

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

You have a link?

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1424453187932

Oh give me a break buddy. WHERE'S THE INTERVIEWER ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT JUSTIN'S RESPONCE TO THE CHINESE AMBASSODOR TO CANADA'S ACCUSTATION OF WHITE SUPREMECY! Where? Thank you!

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

Oh give me a break buddy. WHERE'S THE INTERVIEWER ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT JUSTIN'S RESPONCE TO THE CHINESE AMBASSODOR TO CANADA'S ACCUSTATION OF WHITE SUPREMECY! Where? Thank you!

You just asked it, and it wouldn't change Trudeau answer at all at link below

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1424453187932

 

WWWTT

Debater wrote:

Sean in Ottawa wrote:

This is not about not knowing the issues -- it was an unexpected question about a sensitive topic.

I am not a big Singh fan but this is the kind of question many politicians would ahve difficulty dealing with when they come from a party where they are not the sole decision-maker.

But it's not just the media criticizing Singh, Mulcair himself said that Singh should have known about the China issue:

"It was very surprising that an issue that was on the front pages, not just in Canada, but in New York and in London, there are a lot of people who have paid close attention to what was being said here. It was a pretty shocking statement and I was a little bit surprised to find out that it was news for Mr. Singh," Mulcair said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/war-of-words-current-previous-ndp-leaders-spar-over-state-of-the-party-1.4250560

I call fuckin bullshit! Mulcair now works for the Canadian corporate imperialist media. If the NDP was smart, cut him off!

NDPP

Support for Nazi Ukraine. Support for Apartheid Israel. Unanimous support for Libyan war. Unanimous support to expel Russian diplomats for 'Novichok'. No surprise for me and I suspect many others to discover Canadian politicians are stupid. It is abundantly clear each and every day.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

This is the man who believe in Israel no matter what and was willing to punish any dissent. Of course this white male from Central Canada would find it "shocking" that people from Asia and other parts of the world think we are white supremacists. 

If the question is open ended about the NDP policy on "China" then can any one tell me in a sound bite what the NDP's policy on China is? Is the NDP Ready Aye Ready like the Liberals for any NATO/US initiatives. Do most NDP supporters think that Canada is not a country founded on and still practicing white supremacy? If the party faithful is that far out of touch with the reality of Canada's major cities then it is never going to become the political vehicle of the growing underclass in this country. Fortunately for Singh he is running in one of Canada's most culturally and ethnically diverse ridings. 

 

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

Oh give me a break buddy. WHERE'S THE INTERVIEWER ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT JUSTIN'S RESPONCE TO THE CHINESE AMBASSODOR TO CANADA'S ACCUSTATION OF WHITE SUPREMECY! Where? Thank you!

You just asked it, and it wouldn't change Trudeau answer at all at link below

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1424453187932

 

Still waiting for that link. Don't care about your bullshit reflections that sound like a stupid fairy tail about how "Justin would have answered the exact same question Jag was asked differently".

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

Still waiting for that link. Don't care about your bullshit reflections that sound like a stupid fairy tail about how "Justin would have answered the exact same question Jag was asked differently".

Go 7:15 into video below for the FULL Question (by the interviewer) and the FULL Answer by Justin Trudeau

http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/primetime-politics/episodes/65913224

Nowhere in Trudeau answer does he ask the reporter "who accused who of white supremacy?" - which is what Jagmeet said this AM on CTV, when he was asked a similiar question.

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

Misfit wrote:

Justin Trudeau can't seem to answer questions at his town hall meetings. He just gives political talking points.

maybe Singh and Trudeau are just politicians like many other politicians.

same old same old.

Pretty sad, eh? But what is anyone to do? Vote for Scheer? Sad state of affairs.

WWWTT

Thanks for that Mighty Middle. 

Ya sounds like a similar question but different format. Jag did a much better job with dealing with that question. Justin is just repeating a statement that he has rehearsed. Good possible indication of the shape of things to come. 

Debater

Karl Bélanger, former National Director of the NDP, and Principal Secretary to Tom Mulcair, said on Twitter today that this was a "terrible interview" by Jagmeet Singh.

He also said that getting rid of Tom Mulcair was "the worst mistake New Democrats ever made."

https://twitter.com/KarlBelanger/status/1084597517432602625

https://twitter.com/KarlBelanger/status/1084602006722043904

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

Jag did a much better job with dealing with that question.

By asking the interviewer "who accused who of white supremacy?"

Mighty Middle

Someone get Jagmeet Singh a newspaper subscription

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/someone-get-jagmeet-singh-a-news...

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

WWWTT wrote:

Jag did a much better job with dealing with that question.

By asking the interviewer "who accused who of white supremacy?"

Yes that’s exactly right! Jagmeet directed the interview simply to have the accusation repeated over more than once. Solomon even repeated the phrase very passionately with emphasis. All Jag had to do was play dumb. I’ve done this before and it’s nothing new. 

A white male being interviewed by a white male would probably want to bury a question with the phrase white supremacy real fast. A person of color that would want to capitalize on certain blocks of votes wouldn’t be afraid of the phrase being repeated over and over. 

Justin just sticks with what he has rehearsed repeatedly, and it shows! Justin makes a bunch of errors when speaking in English (sorry I don’t speak French)

You are probably a white person, so you don’t recognize how comfortable Jag was in handling accusations of white supremacy. 

Mighty Middle

WWWTT the amount of people that agree with your stance on Jagmeet answer can fit in a phone booth.

Debater

Mighty Middle is correct on this one.

At post #36 above, I posted the comments Karl Bélanger made on Twitter after the Singh interview.

He said this was a "terrible interview" by Singh.

Misfit Misfit's picture

Debater wrote:

Mighty Middle is correct on this one.

At post #36 above, I posted the comments Karl Bélanger made on Twitter after the Singh interview.

He said this was a "terrible interview" by Singh.

No he's not correct on this one!

Simply quoting the opinion of one person does not nullify what WWWT said nor validate MM's opinion. To think so is a blatent fallacy of logic. Mr. Belanger expressed his opinion and nothing more.

i think that what WWWT said provides unique insight into this issue and your quoting the opinion of one white male only serves to validate what WWWT said and reinforce that white males view things from one lens and are perhaps unable to observe what  Jagmeet Singh had actually accomplished by making Evan Solomon repeat himself.

quizzical

so China has rebuked Justin for irresponsible remarks

WWWTT

Debater wrote:

Mighty Middle is correct on this one.

At post #36 above, I posted the comments Karl Bélanger made on Twitter after the Singh interview.

He said this was a "terrible interview" by Singh.

Belanger=white guy.

Let me ask you this Debater, does the opinions of non white people matter?

I'm interested in hearing what non whites have to say about the white supremecy accusation! Also the accusation is justified.

WWWTT

@ Misfit

Thanks for your support here. Big kiss for you sister!

WWWTT

Mighty Middle wrote:

WWWTT the amount of people that agree with your stance on Jagmeet answer can fit in a phone booth.

Never stopped me before from voicing my opinion and never will in the future! 

As far as your comment goes about the numbers of people on my side fitting in a phone booth goes, perhaps this clip can be a good parallel to the silent voices in Canada you refuse to hear?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_nO8LSqTsY

Mighty Middle

Misfit wrote:

i think that what WWWT said provides unique insight into this issue and your quoting the opinion of one white male only serves to validate what WWWT said and reinforce that white males view things from one lens and are perhaps unable to observe what  Jagmeet Singh had actually accomplished by making Evan Solomon repeat himself.

All you and WWWT are proving is that Jagmeet cannot do wrong, no matter what he does. To make the question about race is an 1) insult to actual racism 2) just shows your virture signalling (and for the record I'm Chinese)

The fact of the matter is the Chinese Ambassador accused Canada of White Supremacy. According to WWWT logic we are not allowed to ask Jagmeet Singh reaction to the Chinese Ambassador's accusation, because to do so is racist. Despite the fact Singh is a 1) National Leader, leading the 3rd Party in the House of Commons 2) All of the party leaders have been asked the same question 3) This story has been making headlines all over the world.

So to use "racism" to let Jagmeet off the hook for not knowing about International issues making headlines all over the world is worse. And if WWWT and Misfit are white, I do NOT need to be lectured of how it is to live a life as a visible minoriy. I live it. And if WWWT and Misfit are white, they have white privilege. To use "racism" as an excuse to let Jagmeet off the hook for having no clue about International news is a 100% insult to every single visible minority on Babble.

WWWTT

What you are writting does not ring true Mighty Middle. I have pointed out fault with Jag before, I've seen it up close, so I know.

Jag is the only major political party leader in Canada that is not white. You don't find it odd in any way that his answer (or lack of or how he handled it) only caused the term "white supremecy" to be repeated over, and who made the accusation? He actually acknowledged that he was not aware of what evidence such an accusation was made under! Suggesting that evidence may very well exist, and that it would be important to look at such evidence! 

Oh and by the way, thanks for coming out and saying that you are Chinese.

R.E.Wood

For NDP’s Jagmeet Singh, the pressure rises as the votes draw closer

Karl Belanger, the NDP's former national director, said Singh's response to the China question is not a big problem on its own, but he believes these kinds of things can add up. Whether he didn't hear the question properly or he wasn't fully briefed, Belanger thinks Singh should have been able to handle it better.

"Frankly, it's not helpful to have answered the way he answered because it feeds into a narrative that Jagmeet Singh is not ready to play at the same level as the other main party leaders," Belanger said.

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2019/01/14/for-ndps-jagmeet-singh-the-...

Mighty Middle

WWWTT wrote:

What you are writting does not ring true Mighty Middle. I

Which is why the amount of people who agree with your opinion can fit in a phone booth.