Andrew Yang aka #YangGang

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Andrew Yang aka #YangGang

Any thoughts on this phenomenon?

Aristotleded24

Since you asked about Yang specifically, I'll repost my thoughts that I had in the Democratic nominee forum:

Andrew Yang is an entrepreneur, so he knows how to sell his product and interview very well. Of course he's saying things that are popular with people because he knows what is popular. Does he have the actual internal strength to push through on this? We don't know, he hasn't been around long enough nor faced any serious tests to know what his level of integrity he has. Even if you move past the sales pitch, on substance, there is often not much there or in the case of his signature policy, UBI, very serious red flags. Michael Brooks has repeatedly documented Yang's desire that UBI will replace other government support programs. For example, let's say you just give everyone UBI while eliminating disability benefits. That means that someone with a disaiblity may be spending all of their UBI on their disability (for example, a wheelchair) which leaves none left over. He has also floated the idea of a value added tax, which is regressive and also part of EU austerity packages that send people in those countries into the streets to protest.

Misfit Misfit's picture

I wasn’t impressed with him.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Not a fan either.

Misfit Misfit's picture

Actually, I was really impressed with Cory Booker. I hope he rises in the polls, and Bernie, of course.

Ward

I find the passionate followers of him to be very convincing 

https://youtu.be/oKwWyqBkB7A

 

Aristotleded24

Ward wrote:
I find the passionate followers of him to be very convincing 

">https://youtu.be/oKwWyqBkB7A

Donald Trump also have followers who are very passionate about him. How does that prove anything?

Ward

Passion about "Building a wall"  vs  " Instituting  a Universal Basic Income "... I guess one picks their poison. 

alan smithee alan smithee's picture

His policy of paying every American a cheque for $1000 a month (as much as I approve of a welfare sstate is totally unrealistic.

When pressed about UBI by reporters he double downed on the idea of paying every American $1000 (regardless-of income) would be a bad idea.

This is the wrong answer to $1000 a month UBI. Maybe something a little more realistic if UBI garanteed income of as thousand dollars a month.  Like everybody earning an income of  $0 to $50 000. His UBI plan is massevly unrealistic.

But let's look at his UBI plan for those already collecting social assistane,

The bottom 10% would lose their health care insurance and evey other benefit they may be collecting.

A family of 3 could never live on $1000 a month his plan Probably lose any other program they rely on

And millionaires would collect $1000 a month as well (WTF?)

The plan is a terrible idea as accrording to Yang's vision. He sounds like a Rhino Party leader in interviews explaining his big platform promise. His take on it is not plausiable. It's a wet dream but a dream that would make the poor even more miserable.

So I give Mr. Yang 3 thumbs down.

Aristotleded24

Thanks alan for going into the details about the issues with Yang's UBI. UBI can be progressive or not depending on how it is done. While he has put the topic on the national stage, Yang's approach to it is not.

Ward

I disagree...it both makes mathematical and humanitarian sense

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Ward wrote:

I disagree...it both makes mathematical and humanitarian sense

How does it make humanitarian sense to strip the poorest of the poor of health coverage?

Aristotleded24

Ward wrote:
I disagree...it both makes mathematical and humanitarian sense

Alan posted in great detail why UBI as proposed by Andrew Yang hurts people at the bottom end of the income distribution. What do you disagree with? Saying you disagree with something isn't a serious argument.

Ward

Many of the neediest tend to resist means tested welfare as they suspect it will force themselves into a cycle of government dependence that punishes (reduces basic needs) should they discover an incrementally finacially improving path towards a future they desire.

Ward

..and Andtew Yang is all for universal health care.

Aristotleded24

Ward wrote:
..and Andtew Yang is all for universal health care.

No he's not