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NDPP

Hong Kong Rioters Wage Sabotage Campaign To Press Congress into Punishing China

https://t.co/5IK4aoqtyA

"...To claim that the US is not involved in the events in Hong Kong is nonsense. It is obviously not by chance that the US sponsored HK rabble rouser Joshua Wong gets published in the NYT with a call for the US Congress to act against China. The Trump administration strategy towards the new super-villain China is a general decoupling between the 'West' and China. The violent protests in HK are obviously one instrument it applies to achieve that. The Trump administration and the rioters hope that the Chinese military intervenes and creates another Tianamen situation. Beijing is not going to fall for the same trick twice..."

NDPP

Empire Strikes Back: Nostalgia For Old Union Jack Persists in HK

https://youtu.be/NQfRP1aTJcw

"British Hong Kong. Once an outstanding model for all who crave freedom and human rights. Right...?"

WWWTT

voice of the damned wrote:

He says the average Hong Konger is sick and tired of the disruptions and can't wait for school to start up again when it is hoped and expected most of the  'chaos and vandalism' will end.

Ah, yes. The Silent Majority.

Not sure how to take your comment?

NDPP is right. Beware the imperialist corporate media, they will never side with communism, no matter how just it is!

https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/08/01/can-a-viral-video-restore-peace-to-hong-kong/

WWWTT

@misfit

Good point. But there’s no big crackdown on the violence that we see in salted protests of the west. 

As far as I’m aware, it’s actually the opposite.

voice of the damned

WWWTT wrote:

voice of the damned wrote:

He says the average Hong Konger is sick and tired of the disruptions and can't wait for school to start up again when it is hoped and expected most of the  'chaos and vandalism' will end.

Ah, yes. The Silent Majority.

Not sure how to take your comment?

It was a sardonic reference to Richard Nixon's use of the same term.

https://tinyurl.com/y3v2dxmu

Nixon used it to mean that middle-class people who seemed uninvolved actually agreed with him and were against left-wing protestors. That sort of general sentiment is often accompanied by rhetoric along the lines of "These punk kids are only rioting because they're out of school and have nothing better to do", also seen in the citation from NDPP's Hong Kong friend.

My point was that pro-government and anti-protest statements out of China often seem oddly similar to right-wing commentary in the west. Same with people who defend Beijing's treatment of Muslim minorities, "You can't expect the Chinese to just lie down and tolerate jihad from religious terrorists!!"

 

 

NDPP

Inside Running Battles of Hong Kong's Wild Weekend

https://youtu.be/7l_23AscmUQ

"A weekend of violent clashes in Hong Kong between police and protesters led to numerous arrests and garnered international attention. Protesters used bricks and petrol bombs while police responded with pepper-spray, tear gas and water cannon."

 

Hong Kong Concedes, Withdrawing Extradition Bill

https://youtu.be/kUu6bohw7i8

"Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam has announced her government was formally withdrawing the controversial bill originally behind the last few weeks of violent unrest in the city. 'Now it's just about opposition to the Chinese govt, the local HK govt and the subversion of state power,' said Stanley Ng, Chairman HK Federation of Trade Unions."

 

With Thanks To Julian Assange and WikiLeaks:

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1168963928115875841

"In a 2009 meeting with Nancy Pelosi, Martin Lee thanked George W Bush for helping to turn out 500,000 protesters in Hong Kong and urged the US to maintain Radio Free Asia Cantonese broadcasts."

NDPP

'Independence Or Death'

https://twitter.com/erinhale/status/1169244995095674882

"Graffiti outside HK's Legislative council where protesters just vowed to fight on - five demands no less! - even after Carrie Lam withdrew the bill that started mass unrest - most people think it's not over."

 

WATCH: HK Protesters Beat Up Elderly HK Metro Station Manager

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1169316016414871553

NDPP

Western 'Progressives' Support Yet Another Color Revolution in Hong Kong

https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/09/western-progressives-support-yet-anot...

You know it's not a real color revolution until the stupid section of the western 'progressive' blogosphere gets to cheerleading...This is a geostrategic, geopolitical information warfare. No longer - if ever - grassroots popular agitation. Progressives - if you actually are that - you need to keep your eyes open, your minds alert and think sharply, critically, objectively as you wade into this battlespace. Lives and nations rest in the balance."

 

Hands Off Hong Kong: The Cry Seldom Heard

https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/09/hands-off-hong-kong-the-cry-seldom-he...

"So, we should expect to hear the cry, 'US Government; Hands Off Hong Kong!' Sadly, with a few principled exceptions it is nowhere to be heard on either the left or right..."

 

Hong Kong Capitulates to Protesters' Demand - What Now?

https://youtu.be/9H4RO-TYnxg

"The withdrawal of the extradition bill was a key demand of the protesters. Will the gesture be enough to pacify them?"

China is not the problem. A Western-backed Hong Kong color revolution is the problem.

NDPP

Dominic Barton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominic_Barton

"Dominic Barton (born 1962) is a Uganda-born Canadian management consultant* and business executive. He was the Managing Director of McKinsey and Company from 2009 to 2018. He is the Canadian Ambassador to China since September 5, 2019."

* 'McKinsey and Company is an American worldwide management consulting firm'  - Wikipedia-

 His 'American worldwide management consulting' experience makes him an ideal Canadian ambassador. Davos guy too. Perfect.

swallow swallow's picture

Interesting choice.

Freeland said Barton's close personal connections to Trudeau and herself means he will have "close and direct contacts" that will help him do the job.

She said his appointment sends "an important message to China" about how much Canada values its relationship with China.

Conservative foreign affairs critic Erin O'Toole released a statement today criticizing the appointment, saying the situation with China calls for an experienced diplomat in the role of ambassador, not a "corporate executive advocating for doing business with China as usual."

"He is replacing one Liberal insider with another Liberal insider at a time that we should have a professional diplomat who is conversant with the language, culture and protocols needed to secure the swift release of Canadian citizens and stabilization of export trade," he said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-ambassador-dominic-barton-1.5269770

Here's a first, I agree with Erin O'Toole. 

NDPP

As for Freeland's assesment that the appointment 'sends an important message to China about how much Canada values its relationship with China' that's certainly true. Just not in the way she intends it be taken. The foreign minister's political 'wet-work' for the empire on Meng Wanzhou, trashing trade and joining the Trump/Bolton/Pompeo anti-China offensive speaks far more clearly.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

McKinsey and Company practically had a monopoloy on all World Bank and USAID contracts going back in the 1990s-2000s. Haven't kept track of them in over 15 years. Sounds just like the type of crowd Freeland would run with. I swear she is an ideological clone of Ignatieff and seems to share the same circle of friends.

 

NDPP

Interesting. Didn't know about McKinsey/USAID etc. That could have been around the same time that Larry Summers was at the World Bank, where he famously commented in a leaked memo on the 'impeccable economic logic' of exporting toxic waste to 'the third world' Summers is also famous as the man who broke Glass Steagal for Bill Clinton ushering in the present day bankster apocalypse of unregulated speculation. Most recently his name came up in the Epstein matters too. He is effusively referred to by Chrystia Freeland as 'my economic guru'. She in turn introduced him to Justin who has apparently now also fallen under the spell of this high priced hustler.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

Could be NDPP. All I know is that there was a cadre of go to firms (management, engineering) that got most of the international development contracts.

NDPP

OK. Well it certainly fits with the package.

 

China Angrily Connects Dots Back To US

https://twitter.com/chinahand/status/1169699634547085312

"...Required reading on how US cultivates NGO cutouts to dodge the interferencer rap."

NDPP

Are These Men Behind The Hong Kong Protests?

https://youtu.be/GQd3N2ImyyM

"Rick Sanchez explains the complicated truth about what's driving the protests in Hong Kong. Then RT America's Michele Greenstein joins from the island territory to discuss the interests and organizations capitalizing on local grievances and instigating protests..."

NorthReport

Maybe its the Hong Kong people who are behind the Hong Kong protests but if anyone wants to support their cry for freedom and peace, more power to them.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

NorthReport wrote:

Maybe its the Hong Kong people who are behind the Hong Kong protests but if anyone wants to support their cry for freedom and peace, more power to them.

Yes they will get the same kind of freedom and peace as the Ukrainians have after their colour revolution. The Egyptians are also into a blissful period of freedom. The Libyans have never had it so good. So far it is clear that US led colour revolutions are the best thing to happen to the oligarchs of those countries, not so much your average Joe.

laine lowe laine lowe's picture

kropotkin1951 wrote:

Yes they will get the same kind of freedom and peace as the Ukrainians have after their colour revolution. The Egyptians are also into a blissful period of freedom. The Libyans have never had it so good. So far it is clear that US led colour revolutions are the best thing to happen to the oligarchs of those countries, not so much your average Joe.

Absolutely. NED and OSF (George Soros) certainly look good on paper but they are based on a profound hatred for communism and socialism. Free speech and independent media are often their biggest rallying call - or entry into campaigns - to disrupt what are deemed as authoritarian regimes by western capitalists.

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WWWTT

NorthReport wrote:

Maybe its the Hong Kong people who are behind the Hong Kong protests but if anyone wants to support their cry for freedom and peace, more power to them.

Sure it is! But don't expect the imperialist corporate media to report the truth!

If you are so willing to believe the icm whole, then why are you even here on babble???

NDPP

More Graffiti from Hong Kong

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1170110856820121600

"Photo being circulated from Hong Kong shows Trump holding an assault rifle while riding a tank next to an eagle firing a tommy gun. And Western media outlets tell us this is a 'pro-democracy' movement that leftists should show solidarity with."

 

'This Is How A War With China Could Begin...'

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1170068357992763392

"NYT Imperial Court Stenographer Nick Krystol prepares us for war with China..."

NDPP

'For Freedom and Democracy: O say can you see...'

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1170674007240167424

 

'When the US Army Comes, I'll Lead the Way!'

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1170683610787172360

"Hong Kong graffiti directly calls for the US military to invade China..."

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

These protestors are demanding they be treated like Puerto Rico or American Samoa. I am sure Trump will respect them in the same manner that he respected Puerto Rico when it needed the federal governments support. 

Maybe someone should show these naive idiots what the real world is like. The people of Hong Kong have never had a democratic system and they never will if they become a territory of the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJ0Nx8pnkc&app=desktop

 

NDPP

'To protest is like playing Grand Theft Auto video game!' says HK protester in this NYT video."

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1170612438422573056

 

"We want to destroy the economy, we will do anything to achieve our aims even if people die."

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1170714574913294336

 

Poverty By Country: Watch what happened to China (Green)

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1170829017064230912

 

'Donald Trump please liberate Hong Kong!' - Protest banner-

NDPP

HK Protesters Cozying Up To US, Ask To 'Liberate' City Amid Ongoing Violence (and vid)

https://on.rt.com/a1e1

"With their direct appeal to Trump, it appears that many of the protesters are not interested in negotiating directly with the government. HK has already officially withdrawn the controversial extradition bill with China."

WWWTT

kropotkin1951 wrote:

These protestors are demanding they be treated like Puerto Rico or American Samoa. I am sure Trump will respect them in the same manner that he respected Puerto Rico when it needed the federal governments support. 

Maybe someone should show these naive idiots what the real world is like. The people of Hong Kong have never had a democratic system and they never will if they become a territory of the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daJ0Nx8pnkc&app=desktop

 

These protesters are fucking lunatic carrying around the US flag!?!?!?!?!

Pleading for Trump to invade? Super bizarre? Really funny shyt you can't make up.

Clearly they are all very materialistic people living in a fantasy world, far seperated from reality.

NDPP

'4th of July' in Hong Kong? Why? Who?

https://youtu.be/LbbbGS86Jis

"The protesters in Hong Kong are bent on pitting Washington against Beijing. They even stated a demonstration where they marched to the US consulate while waving American flags and calling on President Trump to 'liberate' the island. Rick Sanchez discusses the latest developments in the ongoing protest and violent clashes."

Getting goofy, obvious and ridiculous.

NDPP

Hong Kong: Make Colonialism Great Again

https://www.struggle-la-lucha.org/2019/09/12/hong-kong-make-colonialism-...

"It is a thoroughly reactionary development when demonstrators carrying US flags march through a city asking the most hated imperialist figure, Donald Trump, to come to their aid. But that is what is happening in Hong Kong. Washington and the mainstream media are going all out to foment a full-scale pro-imperialist rebellion, basically demanding independence for Hong Kong.

Lost in all the enthusiasm of the capitalist press for the reactionaries is the plight of the working class..."

NDPP

'Because of Hong Kong Protesters, the Man Who Killed His Girl-Friend Will Be Released in October'

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1172044485401792512

"Her killer is free because he can't be extradited to Taiwan."

Outrageous. Ditto corporate criminals who now routinely flee to HK sanctuary - perhaps a hint why oligarchial funding of the protest 'movement'.

 

WATCH: 'Hong Kong Doesn't Welcome Chinese'

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1168993944358871041

"Some HK protesters holding paper board with words 'Hong Kong doesn't welcome Chinese' near a shopping mall. A mainland Chinese lady with her kid was verbally insulted by the protesters."

NDPP

Color Revolutionaries of the World Unite! Hong Kong Protest Leader Pictured With White Helmets Boss

https://on.rt.com/a1ie

"Hong Kong protest figurehead Joshua Wong, who has been rocking up to 'pro-democracy' meetings with various western officials in recent weeks, has been spotted hanging out with the Chairman of the White Helmets in Berlin...My God, what a stupid world we live in..."

And none more stupid than here. Where the White Helmets' true Al Qaeda provenance is still unknown, the NDP lobbied for their Nobel Peace Prize, and several hundred of the jihadi 'humanitarian aid workers'  were 'resettled' here with the intervention of Chrystia Freeland via Netanyahu's Israel. The NED's asset Wong is in suitable company.

NDPP

Pro-Hong Kong Rally in DC Against 'CHINAZI Regime' Being Sponsored With US Govt-Linked Money

https://on.rt.com/a1ku

"A planned Washington DC protest in support of Hong Kong activists and promoting the 'Chinazi' flag is being sponsored by at least six organizations backed by the notoriously shady US funded National Endowment For Democracy (NED). Posters for the event circulated online contain an image of the so-called 'Chinazi' flag - an altered version of the Chinese national flag with the yellow stars arranged to form a swastika and with a hammer and sickle placed in the corner.

Protesters plan to form a human chain encircling the Chinese embassy in Washington DC to protest the 'Chinazi regime' and call for an independent Hong Kong. The links between US officials, anti-China activists and US government funded organizations is reminiscent of countless US regime-change or 'color revolution' efforts seen around the world, from Ukraine to Syria, Libya and Venezuela."

 

Huawei Ready To Sell Its 5G Technology Code and Washington is Getting More Concerned

https://youtu.be/LUUwK3DxGlA

"The Chinese telecom giant said it's prepared to sell the core code of its 5G technology to any prospective Western buyer. US has classified Huawei as a 'threat to national security' accusing it of spying for Beijing..."

The accusation was always a US bluff without any proof or foundation and was based on an economic power-play/competition. Now that the bluff has been called, and any prospective security threat easily countered, watch the US instigated demonization, smear and disinformation campaign continue regardless.

NDPP

"Hong Kong Protests Growing Smaller But More Violent And Ugly..."

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1173491527269543936

 

 

Hong Kong Star Activist Addresses Congress

https://youtu.be/bcl36QDOQMk

"A hearing took place in Washington on Tuesday to determine a US response to the ongoing anti-Beijing protests in Hong Kong. It featured Joshua Wong, one of the protest movement's most prominent activists."

NED stooge sings for his supper.

swallow swallow's picture

Nah, the NED is a puppet for Joshua who controls all. 

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

swallow wrote:

Nah, the NED is a puppet for Joshua who controls all. 

Joshua Wong and Juan Guaidó sure have the US agencies wrapped around their fingers. Its all that democracy flowing through their veins that does it.

NDPP

WATCH: "Hong Kong protesters are chanting 'Go back to mainland China!' to pro-government Hong Kong citizens." [Or maybe just ordinary citizens sick and tired of the relentless disruption, lawbreaking and violence in their city.]

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1174223143948509185

 

"Several pro-government Hong Kong citizens were surrounded by protesters, the police officers have to form a human chain to prevent them from being assaulted by these protesters."

https://twitter.com/liamstone_19/status/1174221953357484032

 

WATCH: "Experts say Hong Kong's top priority is to stop violence quickly."

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1174714766813814787

NDPP

#hybridwarfare

https://twitter.com/MarkSleboda1/status/1174993020573409280

"'Peaceful' US-backed 'pro-democracy' protests in Hong Kong China, Kiev Ukraine, Caracas Venezuela and Tripoli Libya. Can you spot any pattern?"

 

swallow swallow's picture

Yes, I spot a pattern: lots of people on twitter think the US has mnid-control powers over people of colour around the world. 

WWWTT

swallow wrote:

Yes, I spot a pattern: lots of people on twitter think the US has mnid-control powers over people of colour around the world. 

Ya these mind control powers have been around a long time actually. Surprised you never heard of it swallow!

It's called money

NDPP

WATCH: Hong Kong Protesters Ransack Mall, Clash in Street Battles With Police

https://on.rt.com/a25o

"Thousands of masked protesters descended on a Hong Kong satellite town vandalizing a mall and rail stations. Clashes with police ensued..."

 

WATCH: "Human Rights inherent to everyone not just HK protesters..."

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1175918951479619587

NDPP

UNGA 74: China - State Councillor Addresses General Debate

https://youtu.be/HGUE7SR5cQs

"Wang Yi, State Councillor and Minister for Foreign Affairs of China addresses the general debate."

NDPP

Gala Celebrating PRC's 70th Anniversary (and vid)

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1178995472838451200

"The east wind blows soothingly, lifting our spirits..."

 

Tear Gas, Petrol Bombs at Fresh Clashes Between Police & Protesters in Hong Kong, Reports of Live Fire (Photo, Video)

https://on.rt.com/a2n1

"Intense riots and violent clashes between demonstrators and police broke out across Hong Kong streets on Tuesday. Dozens were arrested and one protester was hurt after police reportedly fired a live round to fend off attacks. At least 96 people were detained for violating public assembly laws and carrying weapons and firecrackers as well as owning dangerous chemical substances, local media stated..."

Rousing choruses of the Star Spangled Banner and Rule Britannia continue.

NDPP

Negative Views of China, Up Sharply in Canada, US

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1179025994776301574

"The US-led imperialist system is in decline and fundamental crisis. So Western propaganda is intentionally fueling anti-Chinese racism and xenophobia, reviving the 'Yellow Peril' to scapegoat China for problems caused by capitalism. It is pure projection."

And as is usual here now, some Canadian 'progressives' are doing whatever they can to advance the process.

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NDPP wrote:

Negative Views of China, Up Sharply in Canada, US

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1179025994776301574

"The US-led imperialist system is in decline and fundamental crisis. So Western propaganda is intentionally fueling anti-Chinese racism and xenophobia, reviving the 'Yellow Peril' to scapegoat China for problems caused by capitalism. It is pure projection."

And as is usual here now, some Canadian 'progressives' are doing whatever they can to advance the process.

I'm with you on this one. While the PRC has many problems, its concrete accomplishments are immense, and it deserves respect for that. Whatever happens to it in the future should be the decision of the Chinese people, and not western oligarchs.

NDPP

KPFA: John Pilger on Hong Kong...(podcast)

https://podcasts.apple.com/ee/podcast/john-pilger-on-hong-kong-brexit-ju...

"...Are these Hong Kong protests really 'pro-democracy'? No, and it's absurd to suggest they might be. Hong Kong has had far more democracy under China than it ever had under the British. Much of the so-called pro-democracy movement is about not accepting the fact that it is China. It is China. They are Chinese people. All of the evidence I've seen suggests the majority of people in Hong Kong don't agree with these protesters. They don't agree with hordes of people dressed up as Ninja warriors ripping up infrastructure used  by the majority of people in Hong Kong. A majority, very clearly are not with these protesters..." (17:30)

NDPP

CrossTalk: Communist China at 70

https://youtu.be/UWIvU6KvXGk

"Seventy years ago this week China started down the path of communist rule. Over the past few decades China has emerged - or rather re-emerged - as a leading world power rivalling the US. But challenges remain..."

NDPP

"Hong Kong protesters finally getting what they wanted. No mainland tourists coming, no one is coming."

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1179703536562532352

 

HK Protests: Fading Foreign Tantrum, Not Genuine Revolution

https://journal-neo.org/2019/09/26/hong-kong-protests-fading-foreign-tan...

"Just as unfolded in 2014 during the so-called 'umbrella protests' or 'Occupy Central' movement, a growing backlash has begun across Hong Kong against US-funded protests that have attempted to disrupt governance and commerce as part of a floundering movement to maintain western influence in the region...Having failed to attract wider public support, US-backed protesters have begun resorting to increasingly disruptive activities including rading government buildings, storming commercial districts to intimidate visitors from mainland China and even targeting public transportation. It is being done for Washington and is just one small part of a much wider, global slash and burn foreign policy..."

Sean in Ottawa

One things these protest have shown is the power of direct advocacy outside political parties. Likewise with Thumberg.

In both cases governments are not ignoring and not wanting to supress too strongly due to the reactions. In other words protests are influencing governments to manage them as much as possible. Canadians should protest more.

I hope that things do not deteriorate to further bloodshed in Hong Kong (or where there are environmental protests). 

A point that some can make is that engagement with China has changed the way protest is handled. It is clear the protests are provocative, disruptive and serious yet the government has showed restraint. Some will argue that the impact of engagement and global economic exposure is part of that restraint shown in 2019 that is greater than that shown in 1989. The argument that engagement does indeed moderate peacefully can be made.

Canada should listen to this. The embassy in Iran for example should be opened. Canada has serious issues with Iran and needs the embassy. There are points of disagreement to be sure on both sides. There is a large diaspora here wanting consular services. Canada has a poor record dealing with money laundering here and there is a great deal of Iranian assets flowing here illegally depriving that country. Canada should try play a role trying to moderate the US over Iran. Canada also states that it has interests in supporting people who need aid and Iran is seeing considerable natural disaster in terms of heat, flood and earthquakes.

This Chinese example of the effects of engagement is positive as is the proof that people acting together can stand up to governments. I live in Ontario and terrible things are happening that people can stand up against.

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

The Hong Kong protests have two faces. There have been large marches that resemble peace or environmental rallies in Canadian cities like Vancouver and Montreal where tens of thousands take to the street and march peacefully without many armored police present mostly cops in regular uniform. However in Hong Kong there are also the agents of chaos trained and led by US and UK spy agencies. These deluded young people believe that their situation is worse than say Puerto Rico or Haiti. One is a direct territory of the US and the other is a country where the US has gone in to take over from the government they said was a failure and both have less democracy than present day Hong Kong.

I feel sorry for them because they have drank the koolaid and although the Hong Kong authorities have been measured in their response many of these young people are going to be arrested for violent crimes and they will get sentenced to real jail time for being pawns in a global chess game.

NDPP

WATCH: 'Veiled Protester Beats Man For Saying 'We Are All Chinese'

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1180636850014347264

"I don't know, maybe the guy could have avoided being assaulted by a separatist psychopath if that Western reporter didn't deliberately block him from entering the building."

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