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NDPP

Making Excuses For Russiagate

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/18/making-excuses-for-russiagate/

"The very best evidence that Russia-gate is sinking beneath the waves, is the way those pushing the pseudo-scandal  are now busily covering their tracks. The press, the intelligence community, and the Democrats have all gone off the deep end in search of a Russia connection that doesn't exist. They misled their readers [who quite like the lies], they made fools of themselves, and they committed a crime against journalism. And now they're trying to dodge the blame."

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

Of course, it is foolish to think that Trump owes the Russians because they helped him get elected. What is obvious from the evidence is that the Russians helped Trump get elected because they already owned him.

NDPP

*MUST READ* CIA And FBI Election Interference  -  by Margaret Kimberley 

https://blackagendareport.com/freedom-rider-cia-fbi-election-interference

"...We are inundated with endless expressions of outrage regarding alleged Russian government meddling. Yet little is said about known US intelligence agency involvement in American presidential campaigns. The 2016 election was just the latest example of FBI and CIA interference in a supposedly free country. Hillary Clinton is at the heart of this story..."

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

josh wrote:

NDPP wrote:

FBI Informant Stefan Halper Paid Over  $1 Million By Obama Admin...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49478.htm

"Less than a week after Stefan Helper was outed as the FBI informant who infiltrated the Trump campaign, public records reveal that the 73-year-old Oxford University professor and former US government official was paid handsomely by the Obama administration starting in 2012..."

Jacob Wohl, Jack Prosbeic, the Daily Caller?  That’s what’s known as scraping the bottom of the right-wing barrel.

So is who writes a story all you care about?  Are the contents wrong?

NDPP

If you're stuck on the daily dogsvomit from the  NYT or WaPo it probably is. Decolonize your brain. Try Black Agenda Report instead @ #1054 and let reality assert itself...

josh

kropotkin1951 wrote:

josh wrote:

NDPP wrote:

FBI Informant Stefan Halper Paid Over  $1 Million By Obama Admin...

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49478.htm

"Less than a week after Stefan Helper was outed as the FBI informant who infiltrated the Trump campaign, public records reveal that the 73-year-old Oxford University professor and former US government official was paid handsomely by the Obama administration starting in 2012..."

Jacob Wohl, Jack Prosbeic, the Daily Caller?  That’s what’s known as scraping the bottom of the right-wing barrel.

So is who writes a story all you care about?  Are the contents wrong?

So what?  Has nothing to do with anything except a right-wing effort to muddy the waters.  The guy’s a Republican who did shenanigans in the 1980 election.  But to catch a theif . . . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/who-is-stefan-a-halper-the-fbi-source-who-assisted-the-russia-investigation/2018/05/21/22c46caa-5d42-11e8-9ee3-49d6d4814c4c_story.html?utm_term=.f3a284178f24

josh
NDPP

A Spy in the House of Trump

https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/05/20/a-spy-in-the-house-of-trump/

"The identification of a spy implanted in Donald Trump's presidential campaign by a murky cabal of spooks, both foreign and domestic, has given us a whole new perspective on the Russia-gate hoax. It's the ultimate irony: an investigation into 'collusion' between Trump and the Russians has revealed, after a year, that his accusers were merely projecting their own sins onto the President..."

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So is who writes a story all you care about?  Are the contents wrong?

I wish I had just a nickel for every time "who writes a story" was offered as explicit or implicit proof that the contents must be wrong, on babble.

NDPP

"Putin is behind Chelsea Manning's candidacy. The Kremlin cares so deeply about getting the mighty Ben Cardin out of the Senate so it recruited Chelsea to unseat him in a primary. US political discourse has become completely deranged and won't be healed anytime soon."

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1001186986701611009

josh

NDPP wrote:

A Spy in the House of Trump

https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/05/20/a-spy-in-the-house-of-trump/

"The identification of a spy implanted in Donald Trump's presidential campaign by a murky cabal of spooks, both foreign and domestic, has given us a whole new perspective on the Russia-gate hoax. It's the ultimate irony: an investigation into 'collusion' between Trump and the Russians has revealed, after a year, that his accusers were merely projecting their own sins onto the President..."

Trump couldn’t have tweeted that bullshit any better.

NDPP

The Countless Israeli Connections To Mueller's Probe of Trump and Russia

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-trump-russia-mueller-probe-the-...

"The Israel lobbyists, Netanyahu cronies, psyops, manipulators and well-connected Oligarchs - could it all be just one coincidence?"

 

voice of the damned

This is all of the article that I am able to see on the page that comes up:

The Israeli media usually takes scant interest in Robert Mueller’s investigations. It prefers to dwell on Donald Trump’s supposedly pro-Israeli policies. Last week’s report in the New York Times about the...

The rest, as far as I can tell, appears to be behind a subscription wall. Do you subscribe to Haaretz, NDPP? If so, can you tell us what the article is saying?

 

NorthReport
josh

josh wrote:

NDPP wrote:

A Spy in the House of Trump

https://original.antiwar.com/justin/2018/05/20/a-spy-in-the-house-of-trump/

"The identification of a spy implanted in Donald Trump's presidential campaign by a murky cabal of spooks, both foreign and domestic, has given us a whole new perspective on the Russia-gate hoax. It's the ultimate irony: an investigation into 'collusion' between Trump and the Russians has revealed, after a year, that his accusers were merely projecting their own sins onto the President..."

Trump couldn’t have tweeted that bullshit any better.

 

In fact:

Why aren’t the 13 Angry and heavily conflicted Democrats investigating the totally Crooked Campaign of totally Crooked Hillary Clinton. It’s a Rigged Witch Hunt, that’s why!

Is it Trump or one of NDPP's links?

NorthReport

Giuliani’s reception where he was seriously booed at a New York baseball game yesterday says it all

NorthReport

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Everybody in the GOP knows Trump is guilty as hell. They're just (rightly) terrified of the consequences of their getting in bed with a traitorous madman. Gowdy and the Napster called bullshit on "Spygate" -- merely saying what they all know.

https://twitter.com/20committee/status/1001797759706521601

NorthReport

The Smear Campaign Against Mueller: Debunking the Nunes Memo and the Other Attacks on the Russia Investigation

https://acslaw.org/sites/default/files/The%20Smear%20Campaign%20Against%...

NDPP

The Real Revolution Has Nothing To Do With Donald Trump

https://t.co/NeHCAVePVp

"The Kremlin did not recruit an asset only to have it act against the Kremlin interests with far more aggression than previous administrations, and anyone who thinks that it did has had some very bad luck with thinking. 

Real revolution will require humility. We will have to admit that we have been duped. Look for the strings. Ignore the story and look for the strings."

NDPP

Spooks Spooking Themselves

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/31/spooks-spooking-themselves/

"As the role of a well-connected group of British and US intelligence agents begins to emerge, new suspicions are growing about what hand they may have had in weaving the Russia-gate story, as Daniel Lazare explains..."

NDPP

Amid 'Russiagate' Hysteria, What are the Facts?

https://www.thenation.com/article/amid-russiagate-hysteria-what-are-the-...

"We must end this Russophobic insanity..."

Former US ambassador to Russia speaks truth to the brainwashed.

josh

Paraphrasing:  Even if the Russians stole the DNC emails, they were genuine, so what’s the big deal?

Judge, yes I broke into that house and stole the antique vase, but it was genuine, so what’s the big deal?

NDPP

Why the Evidence Mueller Has For the Indicting of 13 Russian Nationals is Fraudulent

https://t.co/EkUc9jiXm9

 "That Mueller's evidence was an Information Operation to discredit both the Kremlin and the current US government changes everything because fabricated evidence is still considered too tainted to use in a court of law, even if the defendant is Russian..."

josh

The Special Counsel's Office has accused former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort of attempting to get witnesses to lie for him in court, and they've asked the judge to send him to jail as he awaits his trial, according to a filing in DC District Court Monday night.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/politics/mueller-manafort-witness-tampering/index.html

NDPP

Inside the Mysterious Intelligence Firm Now in Mueller's Sights

https://t.co/7ls7hDOK0B

Wikstrat is, for all intents and purposes, an Israeli firm. The company's work was not just limited to analysis. It also engaged in intelligence collection..."

 

Mueller Finally Starts To Target Trump's Israel Ties

https://t.co/4OA0YhRUhz

"According to his wife, who insists that George Papadopoulos has nothing to do with Russia, he was facing criminal charges of being a spy for Israel. The notion is hardly implausible. Moreover, there are strange Israeli footprints all over the Trump-Russia story..."

More like the footprints of the  Elephant in the Room that everyone pretends not to notice or speak of.

josh

“President Trump said Russia should be readmitted to the Group of Seven leading economies."

https://politicalwire.com/2018/06/08/trump-calls-for-readmitting-russia-into-g7/

G 7 in chaos.  Money well spent by Moscow.

josh

 One of Russia’s principal foreign-policy goals for decades has been to split the United States from is allies. Whether by accident or by design, President Trump appears intent on bringing that dream to fruition.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/trump-is-fulfilling-russias-dream-of-splitting-the-west.html

NDPP

"...So we influenced the US elections and he gifted us Europe in return? Utter idiocy. You can't describe this as anything other than a joke." - Putin-

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49594.htm

josh

A Putin denial?  I’m convinced.

NorthReport

Kinda reminds me of this place sometimes....

Popular Russia Listserv Said To Be Increasingly Taking The View From Moscow

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/popular-russia-listserv-said-to-be-in...

NorthReport

oops

josh

Several prominent Russians, some in President Vladimir Putin’s inner circle or high in the Russian Orthodox Church, now have been identified as having contact with National Rifle Association officials during the 2016 U.S. election campaign, according to photographs and an NRA source.

The contacts have emerged amid a deepening Justice Department investigation into whether Russian banker and lifetime NRA member Alexander Torshin illegally channeled money through the gun rights group to add financial firepower to Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential bid.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/latest-news/article212756749.html#storylink=cpy

 

NDPP

"The Democrat/MSNBC Russiagate Narrative of 'Collusion' Is A Dud."

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1006968412025901056

"A year of investigations. Nothing there."

josh

A federal judge ruled Friday that Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, must be jailed ahead of his trial in connection with alleged witness tampering.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/15/620000795/judge-to-decide-whether-manafort-facing-witness-tampering-charges-is-locked-up?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180615

NorthReport

I suppose Trump's pardon is a no-go before a trial. Manafort is nuts, and a few days in the slammer might encourage him to flip.

Rudy Giuliani just sent a clear signal to Paul Manafort not to flip after being jailed

http://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-things-might-get-cleaned-up...

NDPP

Awaiting the Putin-Nazi Apocalypse

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/15/awaiting-the-putin-nazi-apocalypse

"...People willing to believe absurdities, to switch off their critical thinking faculties in order to conform to an official narrative as blatantly ridiculous as the Putin-Nazi narrative, are people who have already surrendered their autonomy, who have traded it for the comfort of the herd. Such people cannot be reasoned with, because there really isn't anyone there...These people are the people who worry me...These 'normal' people, who, completely calmly, as if what they are saying wasn't batshit crazy, explain how Trump's just like Hitler and how Putin is trying to take over the world."

NDPP

Did Sen Warner and Comey 'Collude' on Russiagate?

https://consortiumnews.com/2018/06/27/did-sen-warner-and-comey-collude-o...

"The US was in talks for a deal with Julian Assange but then FBI Director James Comey ordered an end to negotiations after Assange offered to prove Russia was not involved in the DNC leak, as Ray McGovern explains..."

NDPP

Musings II: The 'Intelligence Community', 'Russian Interference', and Due Diligence

http://jackmatlock.com/2018/06/musings-ii-the-intellience-community-russ...

"As for particulars, the report is full of assertion, innuendo and descriptions of 'capabilities' but largely devoid of any evidence to substantiate its assertions. Prominent American journalists and politicians seized upon this shabby, politically motivated report as proof of 'Russian interference' in the US election without even the pretense of due diligence. This is only part of the story of how, without good reason, US-Russia relations have become dangerously confrontational."

Jack Matlock served as US Ambassador to USSR

josh

As Trump arranges to meet face-to-face and privately with Vladimir Putin later this month, the collusion between the two men metastasizing from a dark accusation into an open alliance, it would be dangerous not to consider the possibility that the summit is less a negotiation between two heads of state than a meeting between a Russian-intelligence asset and his handler.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/07/trump-putin-russia-collusion.html?utm_source=tw&utm_medium=s3&utm_campaign=sharebutton-t

josh

Russia's information attack against the United States during the 2016 election cycle sought to take advantage of the greater trust that Americans tend to place in local news.

The information operatives who worked out of the Internet Research Agency in St. Petersburg not only sought to pose as American social media users or spread false information from purported news sources, according to new details.

They also created a number of Twitter accounts that posed as sources for Americans' hometown headlines.

NPR has reviewed information connected with the investigation and found 48 such accounts. They have names such as @ElPasoTopNews, @MilwaukeeVoice, @CamdenCityNews and @Seattle_Post.

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/12/628085238/russian-influence-campaign-sought-to-exploit-americans-trust-in-local-news

NDPP

"The way you know that the Trump/Russia narrative is a religion for US politics, not a journalistic examination, is that all facts that contradict it are simply ignored, no effort made to grapple with this."

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1017382252597207043

NorthReport

Who gives a flyin' fig, as even if it is true the Democrats are barely a smidgen better.

Pardon me while I shed crocodile tears, eh!

‘President Pussy Grabber’ has his way with the GOP

A new book argues that Trump could destroy the Republican Party.

https://usa.spectator.co.uk/2018/07/president-pussy-grabber-has-his-way-...

NorthReport

We are going to war folks, the problem is most of us don't know it yet!

https://twitter.com/chrisinsilico/status/1016955734570029056

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josh

New Mueller indictments: 12 Russian intelligence officials charged with hacking into DNC and Clinton campaign and disseminating info.

Many of these emails and documents were posted during the 2016 campaign by three separate entities. Two of those — “Guccifer 2.0,” and the DCLeaks website” — were created and controlled by these GRU officers from Russia’s intelligence agency, Mueller alleges. The third, WikiLeaks, got the stolen DNC emails from these GRU officials (and, eventually, the Podesta emails), but isn’t being charged with anything — it is referred to as “Organization 1” in the indictment.

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568710/mueller-russia-email-hacking-indictment-trump

 

josh

John Podesta responds to new indictments of 12 Russian nationals for alleged effort to hack DNC, Hillary Clinton's campaign: "Donald Trump likes to describe this as a witch hunt—well, we just found some witches

Michael Moriarity Michael Moriarity's picture

I've just read most of the full indictment and skimmed the rest. It looks pretty detailed and technically credible to me. Unless they are just making shit up, they have some very strong evidence for the charges, though it is unlikely any of these accused will ever stand trial in the U.S. By the way "Organization 1" is Wikileaks.

NDPP

It looks like basically the same old nonsense repackaged to me*, but obviously a strategically timed release to sabotage the Trump-Putin summit meeting.

*Former CIA Ray McGovern: 'The Russian Hack' is an Inside Job

https://gosint.wordpress.com/2017/08/04/former-cia-ray-mcgovern-the-russ...

"The purported 'hack' of the DNC by Guccifer 2.0 was not a hack, by Russia or anyone else. Rather it originated with a copy (onto an external device - a thumb drive, for example) by an insider. The data was leaked after being doctored with a cut-and-paste job to implicate Russia. We do not know who or what the murky Guccifer 2.0 is. You may wish to ask the FBI..."

I'm with Chomsky..

 "Russian meddling in our election? Well, that has most of the world cracking up with laughter."  -  Chomsky

https://youtu.be/edC5OjBK5zU

voice of the damned

NDPP wrote:

 

 "Russian meddling in our election? Well, that has most of the world cracking up with laughter."  -  Chomsky

https://youtu.be/edC5OjBK5zU[/quote]

The overwhelming portion of that video doesn't address the validity of the charges(which is the topic of the post it accompanies): Chomsky says the world is cracking up because it's hypocritical of the US to condemn alleged Russian meddling when the US does the same thing. Only at the very end does he say, without explanation, that most of the charges "have no basis".

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