Venezuelan election 2018

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Venezuelan election 2018

Continued from here. Stay tuned for links to rabble.ca's on the ground coverage of the Venezuelan election!

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MegB

rabble podcast Executive Producer interviews Humberto DaSilva about why he's doing video coverage of the Venezuela elections here.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Thanks for starting this, Meg.

MegB

rabble.ca's own Humberto DaSilva has posted this excellent interview with Francisco Torrealba, Vice President of the Central Bolivariana Socialista de Trabajadores, by Raul Burbano. 

Watch it here on rabble tv!

Also, Counting the vote in Venezuela, by Humberto DaSilva, on rabble tv here.

MegB

More fantastic info on the Venezuelan election in this thread.

NDPP

"The President of the People's Republic of China Xi Jinping congratulated Nicolas Maduro for his reelection as the President of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela in the name of the Chinese government, its people and himself. 'I'm willing to work with you to strengthen the exchange between both countries,' wrote President Xi Jin Ping."

https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/999515336780087297

 

Congratulations to Nicolas Maduro on his Re-Election as President of Venezuela

http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/57507

"In his message, Vladimir Putin expressed his confidence that Nicolas Maduro's work  as head of state will continue to contribute to the development of strategic partnership between the two countries..."

NDPP

The Vultures of Venezuela

http://rabble.ca/news/2018/05/vultures-venezuela

"Some vultures just can't wait...Because a lot of corporate oil ended up under the Venezuelan jungle or seabed, something else needs to be done when the electorate continuously votes irresponsibly..."

WWWTT

I’m going to throw some stuff into this thread and wing it as I go along ok?

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/05/20/americas/venezuela-elections/index.html

and here’s another link

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-10/26/c_136705779.htm

Ok so to me it looks like a lot of countries are out to stick it to Maduros. 

But from that other link I posted from China, these same characters play a different tune when it’s a big player with big pull getting re-elected. 

NDPP

Video: OAS Panel Accusing Venezuela of 'Crimes Against Humanity' is Grilled on Moral Hypocrisy and Open Bias   -  by Max Blumenthal

https://grayzoneproject.com/2018/05/29/oas

"...Rounding out the panel was Irwin Cotler, a former Canadian parliamentarian and veteran Israel lobbyist who recently blamed Palestinians for Israel's killing of 62 protesters in one day in the Gaza Strip. Like a Canadian version of Alan Dershowitz, Cotler reflexively rushes out in Israel's defense whenever it is accused of committing atrocities against Palestinians.

Cotler has also served as a legal advocate for Leopoldo Lopez, the imprisoned right-wing coup leader and orchestrator of Venezuela's violent guarimbas. Sparing no opportunity for hyperbole, he used his time on the panel to accuse Venezuela's government of carrying out the worst humanitarian crisis in the history of Latin America..."

NDPP

Venezuela: Canada Sanctions Violate International Law

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Canada-Sanctions-Violate-Public-I...

"Venezuela has condemned the latest round of sanctions imposed by the Canadian government against several members of the Bolivarian government, calling them a 'blatant violation of the most fundemental rules of international law.'

Venezuela says with the sanctions, Canada has continued 'their foreign policy of humiliating subordination to the racist and supremacist administration of Donald Trump.  Facts suggest that this servile policy of the Canadian authorities is the result of that government's urgency to avoid losing benefits and preferences in the trade agreements with the United States,' the statement added."

What an odious toady Canada is. Welcome to  Chrystia Freeland's 'feminist foreign policy' hard at work for you and America Canucklheads..

NDPP

 Zionist Liberal MP Michael Levitt Agrees with Zionist ex Liberal MP Irwin Cotler. Surprise, Surprise!

https://twitter.com/LevittMichael/status/1002290221122113536

"Liberal MP Michael Levitt, who chairs a House of Commons subcommittee on international human rights, said he agrees with Irwin Cotler's call for Canada to refer the matter to the ICC."

But refer Israel. Never. 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Venezuela has condemned the latest round of sanctions imposed by the Canadian government against several members of the Bolivarian government, calling them a 'blatant violation of the most fundemental rules of international law.

These sanctions, against 18 individuals, are actually an UPGRADED version of the sanctions that were described as a "crime against humanity" in the previous Venezuela thread.

That hyperbole brought to us by NDPP, of course.

Maybe I've misunderstood, though.  Maybe the population of Venezuela is those 18 people?  Is that why these sanctions are the "real" reason nobody can buy corn flour???  Why some are suggesting that Venezuela's inflation will soon be hitting [2.5 x 10^4]%?  Sorry for the math puzzle; it's just easier to use scientific notation now.

NDPP

Actually 'Crimes Against Humanity' is hardly hyperbole but the correct term used by the UN rapporteur, a learned expert, after a systematic investigation on the effects of  Western sanctions being applied against Venezuela, as part of a regime change policy designed to deliver Venezuela's oil into Yanqui hands. 

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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after a systematic investigation on the effects of  Western sanctions being applied against Venezuela

Sanctions being applied against...

Venezuela??

Or 18 citizens?

NDPP

"I can say that the sanctions against Venezuela entail a crime against humanity which could be brought before the International Criminal Court as a violation of Article 7 of the Rome Statute."

Special UN Rapporteur Alfred de Zayas

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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after a systematic investigation on the effects of  Western sanctions being applied against Venezuela

Sanctions being applied against...

Venezuela??

Or 18 citizens?

Sanctions being applied to people ONLY because they are high officials of a government the U.S. wants removed.  Therefore, it doesn't matter if they are applied to "individuals".

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Sanctions being applied to people ONLY because they are high officials of a government the U.S. wants removed.

And this alone is surely not going to remove them.

But gosh, some U.S. parasite can't buy their debt.

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Therefore, it doesn't matter if they are applied to "individuals".

If nothing else, it should be clear to any honest person that the sanctions aren't being applied to all the people of Venezuela.

Would you agree?

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Mr. Magoo wrote:

If nothing else, it should be clear to any honest person that the sanctions aren't being applied to all the people of Venezuela.

Would you agree?

The sanctions are being applied to selected members of the elected government of a sovereign nation. It is an attack on the independence of the government by a foreign power and thus it is an attack on the people at large.

It is clear that despite your rhetoric to the contrary you do not believe in democracy or international law. Targeting people because they are part of a democratically elected government you want to change is the antithesis of the rule of law in the international sphere.

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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The sanctions are being applied to selected members of the elected government of a sovereign nation. It is an attack on the independence of the government by a foreign power and thus it is an attack on the people at large.

How does it MATERIALLY affect "the people at large"?  What makes that material effect even close to a "crime against humanity"?

Canadians can't trade with 18 Venezuelans.  So?

The guy who could potentially have won the recent Venezuelan election has banned from politics until 2032, and you're OK with that (unless you want to tell me you're not?).  Don't pretend that your interest is "democracy" and international law (in this context) when your definition of democracy and international law (in this context) is "anything Maduro wants or does".

There's a reason why it's actually not just Don Trump, Chrystia Freeland and me saying that something in the milk ain't clean.

NDPP

Venezuela Defies the US Empire Reelecting Maduro

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/01/venezuela-defies-the-us-empire-r...

"The game plan for the US and its funded opposition is:

+ Declare elections that are lost but close as fraudulent

+Boycott elections that they don't have a chance of winning and call these fraudulent

+Then initiate street violence to provoke an over-reaction from the government.

US-aligned big-business in Venezuela has contributed to the opposition offensive by creating selective shortages in consumer goods as part of what has become known as the economic war. The US for its part declared Venezuela an 'extraordinary national security threat' in 2015 and has since piled on ever increasing economic sanctions. US-led diplomatic efforts have been designed to isolate Venezuela and further pressure Maduro simply to give up and resign..."

 

Sanctioning Venezuela: Pain for Pain's Sake

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/01/sanctioning-venezuela-pain-for-p...

"As heart-breaking as it is for [North] Americans to think one country might meddle in another's affairs we've been meddling in Venezuela's. The US wants regime change, and has since Hugo Chavez put most Venezuelans, the poor ones on radar. But on what grounds? Anarchy? Tyranny? Corruption? To read and believe the hype, Maduro has gathered all the power and, simultaneously lost all control.  The resulting 'humanitarian crisis' affects, not only Venezuela, but provides the (notional) threats to US security that premise our sanctions. Sanctions that at least further - likely create - the humanitarian crisis..."

NDPP

All You Need To Know About Luis Almagro and the OAS and Why Canada Belongs There Too

https://twitter.com/rosendo_joe/status/1001969719996506112

"On his first trip to Jerusalem, Organization of American States leader Almagro praises Israel's commitment to democracy and to human rights."

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Grapes of Wrath in Rural Venezuela

El Maizal is a productive commune in rural Venezuela, nested between two states in the center of the country: Lara and Portuguesa. Our commune’s land, given to self-organized campesinos by President Chavez, is high-grade. Year after year, we have been harvesting to meet the needs of our community and the people of Venezuela. We believe that, in a global context that is marked by a profound economic crisis, we can help mitigate the impact of that crisis. We do this in (and for) our own communities, and we hope to do so beyond as well. We also have a work ethic and a deep commitment to the land. The craft of agriculture – to plant and to harvest – is our human condition by birth. It is the world that we were born into.

In the last few months we faced a turbulent situation in Venezuela with deep internal and external contradictions. Then, after the May 20 electoral victory, came Nicolas Maduro’s call upon the people to become active subjects in the structural transformations that our country requires. We, who have always taken seriously our roles as subjects of transformation – as Chavista campesinos and as working people – took the president’s words seriously and decided to do our part.

So we turned the page and moved forward with an economic, territorial and organizational plan. However, in doing so, we have had clashes with powerful bureaucrats who administer the state’s resources and funding. In these interactions, we have witnessed time and again the conflict between the old bourgeois state and the emerging future communal and socialist state. This clash has become tangible and material again in the last few weeks.

About a week ago, on May 26, the National Guard’s National Anti-Kidnapping and Extortion Command (CONAS) arrived at the Maizal Commune. Their objective wasn’t to support or encourage the collective project. Could you tell us what happened and, more importantly, why it happened?

The CONAS arrived at our commune supposedly following the trail of a group of illegal traffickers who sell, outside of the regular channels, supplies of Agropatria (which is the government-owned and operated supplier of seeds and other agricultural inputs).

But to understand what happened on that day, we have to go back in time...

On April 28, we received state financing directly from the hands of President Nicolas Maduro in Carora, near the Maizal Commune. This funding was granted so that we could go ahead with the sowing of corn in May.

Most of the month of May went by and still we were unable to purchase the seed and inputs that we need through the regular channels. Why? Because Agropatria does not respond to the needs of small and midsize producers. Thus, we were obliged to purchase inputs outside of the regular channels, as most small producers have had to do. In effect, this is because the government is not solving the problem of the illegal trafficking of these inputs.

In any case, as campesinos we have no option but to produce. So towards the end of May, as the planting season was coming to a close, we were forced to purchase seed from unofficial sellers: some 300 sacks of corn seed (in fact, what we actually need is 1500 sacks for the 1300 hectares of our land that are usually dedicated to growing corn).

The CONAS came to El Maizal on May 26. We were already “guilty” in their eyes, having committed the “crime” of purchasing inputs for the seasonal planting. This national police force came into the commune in their typical bullying style. They confiscated our phones. We were held for some six hours and taken to a National Guard jail in Portuguesa state. Eventually, we were released.....

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

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Agropatria is in charge of all the state’s importing and distribution of seeds and agricultural inputs. When the company was nationalized by Chavez, he charged it with servicing all agricultural production, from the small to the large producer. But the internal logic of Agropatria makes it almost impossible for the small and medium producer to acquire the seeds and other inputs.

There were always problems, but now the situation has gotten worse. We hear people, government spokespeople, claiming that the problem is the lack of resources or other external factors. That is the explanation they give when asked why the Agropatria stores are empty. But, at the same time, we see illegal traffickers of agricultural material coming through our towns with gigantic trucks loaded with seed and inputs that actually come from Agropatria... and they sell those supplies for a hundred times the official price!

So the question is: who channels the seed and inputs to the illegal market? We want to go to the root of the problem, and we are not afraid of making our accusations public.[3]

The communal project has contradictions with the CONAS and Agropatria, but the problem that you are facing is deeper and more complex.

Right, the problems with the CONAS and Agropatria are not the main issue. Obviously, we will always denounce the CONAS' harassment and the deep corruption that runs through Agropatria. But the problem goes beyond that.

The many politicians who don’t work for the people is what affects us most. Unfortunately, they are politicians associated with the PSUV [United Socialist Party of Venezuela]. Right now, many of our representatives and functionaries are in fact doing the work of the right: installing the logic of corruption, bureaucracy and clientelism (which are all the same thing in the end). Thus, we daily witness moral and material degradation in the governmental sphere. A reformist logic seems to dominate that landscape.

So we have taken up a twofold task. On the one hand, we are denouncing the corrupt and anti-popular logic of the states’ agricultural institutions (not just Agropatria). On the other hand, we are also making an open call – to communards, the common people, and barrio dwellers – to collectively analyze the situation. Most importantly, we want these groups to make specific proposals about how to save our people in the profound economic crisis that faces us.

epaulo13 epaulo13's picture

Embarrassing Defeat for the U. S. in Its Efforts to Expel Venezuela from the OAS

At the OAS nineteen member states voted in favor, four against and eleven abstained when the US tried to have Venezuela sanctioned. US will not hesitate to bear tremendous pressure on member countries to get its way in Latin America. We speak to CEPR’s Mark Weisbrot about the vote and how it came about

NDPP

An Open Letter To Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Venezuela

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/14/an-open-letter-to-prime-minister...

"...So you know how it feels prime Minister to have Canada declared a risk to US security and for that to be used as a basis for tariffs. Perhaps now you could spare a thought for Venezuela that was declared twice 'an unusual and extraordinary' risk to US security?

Venezuela, a country that has never gone to war or invaded any neighbor...Only a thoroughly deluded person could think that Venezuela threatens the security of the world's superpower. Yet your government has joined President Trump in declaring President Nicolas Maduro a dictator. Your Minister of Foreign Affairs denounced - a priori - the May 20, 2018 presidential election as fraudulent despite the assessment to the contrary of 2,000 international witnesses..."

NDPP

[Right-Wing] "Colombia President-Elect Ivan Duque has held a phone conversation with US VP Mike Pence, during which the pair reportedly discussed ways to ramp up the drug war and committed to applying pressure on Venezuela."

https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1010666315504181248

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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Only a thoroughly deluded person could think that Venezuela threatens the security of the world's superpower. Yet your government has joined President Trump in declaring President Nicolas Maduro a dictator.

That kind of switched canoes in between sentences, yes?

NDPP

"Why Can't the US Just Simply Invade?' Officials Say Trump Pushed US Military Overthrow in Venezuela

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49787.htm

"Surrounded by his top military aides in a White House meeting less than a year ago, the Associated Press on Wednesday reports that President Donald Trump wanted to know why the US military couldn't 'just simply invade' the country of Venezuela..."

Because the US military knows the Venezuelans would eat them for breakfast. That's why.

NDPP

China To Breathe New Life in Venezuelan Oil Company Despite US Ire

https://sptnkne.ws/hXr7

"China is lending its helping hand to Venezuela to stabilize the country's oil sector, analysts told Sputnik, adding that Beijing's economic activities in Latin America are apparently getting  on Washington's nerves..."

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Because the US military knows the Venezuelans would eat them for breakfast. That's why.

Americans for breakfast is better than no breakfast at all.  Beats eating zoo animals.