World Responds to the Earthquake in Haiti

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NDPP

Cruise Ship Docks at Private Beach for BBQ and Water Sports

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/18/cruise-ship-docks-at.html

"The Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines' ship Independence Of The Seas went ahead with its scheduled stop at a fenced in private Haitian beach surrounded by armed guards, leaving its passengers to 'cut loose' on the beach, just a few kilometers from one of the worst humanitarian disasters in the region's history.."

Gazans Raise Money for Haiti

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=255047

"We are here supporting the victims of Haiti..We feel for them the most because we were exposed to our own earthquake during Israel's war on Gaza.."

remind remind's picture

In repect to aid not reaching the Haitians because the USA is controlling the ports and airports and turning away MSF, thought there was something amiss in the news reporting last night, even though there was a huge about of other information being provided....

 guess our news is even more controlled than,  I at least, thought...

Also the hypocrisy of "rich" people is amazing:

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The 4,370-berth Independence of the Seas, owned by Royal Caribbean International, disembarked at the heavily guarded resort of Labadee on the north coast on Friday; a second cruise ship, the 3,100-passenger Navigator of the Seas is due to dock.

The Florida cruise company leases a picturesque wooded peninsula and its five pristine beaches from the government for passengers to "cut loose" with watersports, barbecues, and shopping for trinkets at a craft market before returning on board before dusk. Safety is guaranteed by armed guards at the gate.

The decision to go ahead with the visit has divided passengers. The ships carry some food aid, and the cruise line has pledged to donate all proceeds from the visit to help stricken Haitians. But many passengers will stay aboard when they dock; one said he was "sickened".

"I just can't see myself sunning on the beach, playing in the water, eating a barbecue, and enjoying a cocktail while [in Port-au-Prince] there are tens of thousands of dead people being piled up on the streets, with the survivors stunned and looking for food and water," one passenger wrote on the Cruise Critic internet forum.

"It was hard enough to sit and eat a picnic lunch at Labadee before the quake, knowing how many Haitians were starving," said another. "I can't imagine having to choke down a burger there now.''

but the person stating that managed to take the same cruise again.....

 

A_J

[url=http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=AP&d... Club urges creditors to forgive Haiti's debt[/url]

AP wrote:
The Paris Club of creditor nations urged all of Haiti's bilateral lenders on Tuesday to cancel the earthquake-stricken nation's debt.

Paris Club members agreed in July to cancel their claims on Haiti, totaling $214 million, though some countries have yet to finalize the process. The Paris Club is an informal group of creditor governments from industrialized countries, and those who were owed money by Haiti are Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, Britain and the U.S.

The Paris Club "calls upon other bilateral creditors also to urgently provide full debt cancellation to Haiti," considering the financing needs the Caribbean country faces in rebuilding, it said in a statement.

Haiti's primary bilateral debt outside the Paris Club is $167 million owed to Venezuela and $91 million owed to Taiwan, according to the IMF.

Taiwan's President Ma Ying-jeou said Tuesday that Taiwan will consider canceling debts from earthquake-ravaged Haiti, a move that could add to Taipei's cachet in a region where rival China is making inroads.

Doug
Ghislaine

remind wrote:

In repect to aid not reaching the Haitians because the USA is controlling the ports and airports and turning away MSF, thought there was something amiss in the news reporting last night, even though there was a huge about of other information being provided....

 guess our news is even more controlled than,  I at least, thought...

Also the hypocrisy of "rich" people is amazing:

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The 4,370-berth Independence of the Seas, owned by Royal Caribbean International, disembarked at the heavily guarded resort of Labadee on the north coast on Friday; a second cruise ship, the 3,100-passenger Navigator of the Seas is due to dock.

The Florida cruise company leases a picturesque wooded peninsula and its five pristine beaches from the government for passengers to "cut loose" with watersports, barbecues, and shopping for trinkets at a craft market before returning on board before dusk. Safety is guaranteed by armed guards at the gate.

The decision to go ahead with the visit has divided passengers. The ships carry some food aid, and the cruise line has pledged to donate all proceeds from the visit to help stricken Haitians. But many passengers will stay aboard when they dock; one said he was "sickened".

"I just can't see myself sunning on the beach, playing in the water, eating a barbecue, and enjoying a cocktail while [in Port-au-Prince] there are tens of thousands of dead people being piled up on the streets, with the survivors stunned and looking for food and water," one passenger wrote on the Cruise Critic internet forum.

"It was hard enough to sit and eat a picnic lunch at Labadee before the quake, knowing how many Haitians were starving," said another. "I can't imagine having to choke down a burger there now.''

but the person stating that managed to take the same cruise again.....

 

I think that is sickening as well. However, DR, Cuba, etc. are all extremely close as well. How many people are cancelling their plans to sun on those beaches nearby to donate the money to Haiti?

Merowe

A couple of quotes from the Globe and Mail's latest http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/haiti/canadian-sailors-reach-d... do little to ease my anxieties about the nature of our national response:

"We need water and medicine," said local resident Sam Moly. "We got nothing [from international community]. Everything we do, we do for ourselves." HMCS Athabaskan brings little in terms of actual food and water, but is more equipped to provide support to existing agencies, to provide leadership in chaotic communities and to better assess their needs and priorities."

So, let me get this straight: this is one of the two naval destroyers that sailed off to great fanfare last week, to fight the good fight in Haiti. I think Peter Mackay had a 'Mission Accomplished' moment on the docks and maybe The Asshole Himself was there too, I can't remember. But since destroyers can't actually carry much besides weapons and soldiers, this one's sudden appearance off the coast, a week after the quake when all those trapped or critically injured have long since perished is about as much use as a wet fart in a thunderstorm.

But they can provide 'support to existing agencies'. What agencies would those be? The local ones completely destroyed in the earthquake, or the foreign ones that aren't there? And if not food and water, just what sort of support are we talking about? Web design tutorials? Video-conferencing? Shiatsu and aromatherapy?

Oh, and don't forget the 'leadership'. Because one thing these desperately poor, self-sufficient, longsuffering people need is leadership. They just love it when well-fed foreign whiteys show up to offer leadership.

"The effort in Haiti is moving from rescue to relief, said army engineer Captain Blaine Thurston: treating secondary infections, performing cleanup tasks and maintaining peace and security....

Roughly 50 sailors were expected on shore by day's end, their principal responsibility to provide security and perform reconnaissance work in advance of the possible arrival of members of the Quebec-based Royal 22e Regiment."

So, after a few days at sea, our brave sailors get to strut about in military costumes and automatic weapons, practicing their macho poses for the cameras, intimidating the shell-shocked locals and 'maintain peace and security' over a corpse-filled ruin.

Oh, and 'perform reconnaissance', er, drive about in heavily armed SUVs, oggling the damage, before fucking off back to the ship for three squares, beer and a movie.

While I figure the Belgian medical staff that evacuated a functional hospital last night in UN trucks, leaving all the wounded AND untreated behind, get the top prize so far for cultural sensitivity - but of course, they cut their teeth in the Congo - its good to see our boys and girls in uniform doing us proud.

NDPP

As was suggested on the NDP and Haiti thread - excellent material at Democracy Now:

http://www.democracynow.org

This evening's As It Happens did an excellect interview with the Montreal Gazette's Sue Montgomery in Cite Soleil in Part 1. Part 2 has a piece on the unsuccessful attempts of 'Nicole' to get Canada to do the right thing by allowing her mother to return with her to Canada:(also on Part 2 of AIH the Guantanamo 'suicides')

http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/latestshow.html

N.Beltov N.Beltov's picture

Haiti earthquake: US ships blockade coast to thwart exodus to America.

 

USA! USA! How many kids did you kill today?!

 

NDPP

US Mercenaries Set Sights on Haiti

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100201/scahill

"Private security companies are seeing big dollar signs in Haiti...

The current US program under which armed security companies work for the State Department in Iraq - the Worldwide Personal Protection Program - has its roots in Haiti during the Clinton administration.

In 1994, private US forces, such as Dyna Corp, became a staple of US operations in the country following the overthrow of Jean Bertrand Aristide by CIA backed death squads.."

A_J

Merowe wrote:
While I figure the Belgian medical staff that evacuated a functional hospital last night in UN trucks, leaving all the wounded AND untreated behind, get the top prize so far for cultural sensitivity.

Well, the Belgian doctors who evacuated (not last night, but a few days ago) were evacuated because they didn't have any security . . . security which you are now arguing against providing.

Fidel

[url=http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100120/health/haiti_quake_france_health_a... says aid plane prevented from landing in Haiti[/url]

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PARIS (AFP) - Aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF - Doctors Without Borders) said one of its planes carrying vital medical equipment to Haiti's quake victims has repeatedly been prevented from landing at Port-au-Prince.ADVERTISEMENT

The cargo plane, carrying drugs, surgical supplies and two dialysis machines, "was turned away three times from Port-au-Prince airport since Sunday night despite repeated assurances of its ability to land there," MSF said in a statement.

"This 12-ton cargo was part of the contents of an earlier plane carrying a total of 40 tons of supplies that was blocked from landing on Sunday morning," the statement from the French-founded organisation said.

"Since January 14, MSF has had five planes diverted from the original destination of Port-au-Prince to the Dominican Republic. These planes carried a total of 85 tons of medical and relief supplies."

The statement did not give any reason for the planes' having been turned away or say who had prevented them from landing, however US forces control the airport in Port-au-Prince.

Blocking humanitarian aid is illegal according to the UN. And yet the US has done this to more than just Haiti in recent times.

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Cry

Fidel

It's too bad they aren't the Khmer Rouge or some group like that. US Hawks would  pull out all the stops to see that the aid and some other stuff got through without a hitch, if that was the case.

NDPP

Haiti's Classquake:

http://haitianalysis.com/2010/1/19/haiti-s-classquake

"With masses of people unable to get critical emergency medical care, water and basic supplies, the lack of local state infrastructure and personnel is plainly apparent..

Giving priority to unloading heavy weaponry, US forces have turned away a number of large planes

NDPP

 

It's Time to Investigate the Aid Fiasco

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/19-9

Haiti remains a death trap, with an aid program that has sat by and watched thousands die without relief.

There has been criminal negligence here, not just mistakes. It is worse than "bottlenecks". Who will blow the whistle?

 

NDPP

US Troops Take Over Palace

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article69940...

"US troops swooped down in helicopters to take control of Haiti's ruined presidential palace today..

'I haven't seen the Americans in the streets giving out water and food, but now they come to the palace,' said said Wilson Guillaume, as some of the homeless living rough in the Champ de Mars Square before the  palace shouted abuse at the Americans.

It's an occupation. The palace is our power, our face, our pride,' added Feodor Descanges, another bystander"

NDPP

A Week After Haiti Quake - Aid Elusive

http://www.inform.com/article/A%20week%20after%20Haiti%20quake%2C%20aid%...

"The world still can't get enough food and water to the hungry and thirsty one week after an earthquake shattered Haiti's capital.

The airport remains a bottleneck, the port is a shambles. The Haiti government is invisible, nobody has taken firm charge, and the police have largely given up...

'God has abandoned us! The foreigners have abandoned us!' yelled Micheline Ursulin, tearing her hair as she rushed past a large pile of decaying bodies. Three of her children died in the quake.."

SparkyOne

Nodifference if you took half the time you spent posting articles and put it towards raising money for Haiti I think you could buy a jet full of supplies.

Or two Laughing

NDPP

thanks but there's lots doing that - sounds pretty dodgy to me. I'd be happy just to raise a little consciousness instead...

No 'Hope for Haiti' Without Justice:

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2010/01/20101196265844450.html

"there is little doubt that most of the funds raised will wind up lining the pockets of corrupt local elites and their US and international corporate and NGO allies.."

Merowe

A_J wrote:

Merowe wrote:
While I figure the Belgian medical staff that evacuated a functional hospital last night in UN trucks, leaving all the wounded AND untreated behind, get the top prize so far for cultural sensitivity.

Well, the Belgian doctors who evacuated (not last night, but a few days ago) were evacuated because they didn't have any security . . . security which you are now arguing against providing.

When every tool in your kit is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. In Haiti we see the world's largest military and its wannabe northern neighbor busily converting a humanitarian disaster into a 'security issue' on the back of a United Nations military presence that regards the local populace as hostiles best viewed down the gunsights of an automatic weapon from the back of an APC.

The Belgians are pathetic assholes because instead of using the eyes and ears God gave them they followed UN advice and evacuated. The CNN reporter covering this, himself a doctor, had sufficient wit to treat security concerns as alarmist nonsense and spent the night in the abandoned field hospital attending the abandoned patients. All that happened through the night was that more injured people trickled in - as you'd expect, somehow, if you weren't so willing to think that poor black Haitians who've just survived a holocaust are a 'security risk' instead of desperate victims who deserve only the same human dignity you would have accorded to yourself.

The only security risk is in the warped racist perspective of the relief effort's leadership, which risks provoking violence as it continues to treat innocent victims like criminals. This is corroborated by Democracy Now's Amy Goodman who has been touring the city without incident at all hours of the day and night since the weekend, and other reporters not embedded in the MSM or the self-serving efforts of various military units. Their reports CONSISTENTLY reference the surprising lack of aid on the ground, the high degree of resiliency and self-organization among the neighbourhoods and the notable absence of criminal activity.

Naturally after a week without food and water, tempers will flare at aid distribution points. This is confirmation of humanity not criminality.

Boom Boom Boom Boom's picture

I'm watching Trouble The Water, about Katrina, and there was a clip of heavilly armed policemen protecting Harrah's Casino - just chillin' out in front. I wonder if the same will happen in Haiti - are there also corporate thugs there that feel they need protection?

Unionist

Great post, Merowe. And thanks, NDPP, for keeping your temper in the face of baiting. Keep posting those links please.

remind remind's picture

There has been a 6.1 "after shock" this morning, more devastation, more rubble, more dead and injured.

Maysie Maysie's picture
NDPP

Washington Shuts Door on Haitian Refugees

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/hait-j20.shtml

"That US officials are planning for 'worsening conditions' in Haiti over the 'coming weeks' - beyond the desperate situation that prevails there now - is a damning admission that Washington has no intention to make available widespread relief, much less rebuild Haiti.

The State Department has gone so far as to refuse visas for sick and dying Haitians seeking treatment at an emergency field hospital adjacent to Miami's airport. Dr. William ONeil, dean of the University of Miami medical school, which established the hospital, called the callous policy 'beyond insane'.

Meanwhile, the rescue operation - the ostensible purpose for the US military presence - has proven such a debacle that even the media has been forced to make note of its obvious failure to deliver food, water and medicine to the Haitian people.."

NDPP

Real News: Haiti - Guns or Food? (vid)

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24436.htm

"As aid starts to trickle in, and the extent of the horror becomes known, decisions are already being made that will affect the Haiti that emerges from this. Post earthquake Haiti will further cement the domination of the Haitian people by foreigners..."

Maysie Maysie's picture

The IMF to Haiti: Freeze Public Wages

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Now, in its attempts to help Haiti, the IMF is pursuing the same kinds of policies that made Haiti a geography of precariousness even before the quake. To great fanfare, the IMF announced a new $100 million loan to Haiti on Thursday. In one crucial way, the loan is a good thing; Haiti is in dire straits and needs a massive cash infusion. But the new loan was made through the IMF's extended credit facility, to which Haiti already has $165 million in debt. Debt relief activists tell me that these loans came with conditions, including raising prices for electricity, refusing pay increases to all public employees except those making minimum wage and keeping inflation low. They say that the new loans would impose these same conditions. In other words, in the face of this latest tragedy, the IMF is still using crisis and debt as leverage to compel neoliberal reforms.

Jebus cripes crap.

Michelle

Shock doctrine.

remind remind's picture

From Maysie's  CBC link, and thanks maysie for the links...

 

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Relief workers have said the damaged port has prevented large ships from docking and stymied the delivery of food and emergency supplies to victims of last week's earthquake.

Bottlenecks at the damaged harbour and at the capital's airport continue to make it difficult to distribute supplies

 

And yet cruise ships have no problems at the "private" docks.

NDPP

Aid Workers Frustrated with Relief Effort:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/20/haiti.frustration/index...

"Anger boiled over on the streets of Haiti's capital Tuesday--not just from residents who have gone a week without food or water, but from the people who are supposed to be providing it. Relief workers say help is not reching many of the 2 million residents in Port au Prince who need aid, because those who are supposed to be coordinating the efforts are inept.

'It's terrible,' said Erik Klein, head of disaster relief agency CAN-DO, 'There's got to be coordination.' Medical aid is particularly needed, Klein and others said. 'There are medical supplies just sitting at the frigging airport!'

Rescued Haitians Die At Hospital for Lack of Supplies

http://www.katu.com/news/82164772.html

"'He's dying right now in front of our eyes,' said Dr. Roberto Feliz. What's so frustrating is that we don't have the basic equipment that would save him. He's a young, strong guy. In any normal hospital he'd survive.'"

Group Says Conditions Getting Worse in Haiti

http://www.wmur.com/news/22283215/detail.html

"the plight in Haiti is getting worse each day, and the latest quakes made the dire situation even more difficult. 'I don't know how much more we can take,' said Samson Duclair, president of the Haiti Community Center. He said that in one way, the second quake was worse. He said there was more chaos with people running not even knowing where they're going because they know what it is,' Duclair said.

He said that as bad as the conditions are in the city, a pastor in an outlying village told him their situation is worse. 'We don't have no food, no drink - nothing. People are starving to death.'"

Strong Aftershock Rocks Haiti

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/americas/2010/01/2010120113540937346.html

"The minute the earth shook everyone started to scream, they are praying and singing religious songs. People are still very traumatised here. What we do know is many of the buildings that were already damaged by the earthquake collapsed.

The aftershock came just hours after the United Nations said it would send an additional 3,500 troops and police to Haiti..Defending the UN on Tuesday against criticism that millions of Haitians still do not have food or water, Ban Ki-moon said, 'the situation is overwhelming.'"

Doctors Group Says US 'Blocks' Haiti Medical Aid

http://www.worldbulletin.net/news_detail.php?id=52932

"We cannot accept that planes carrying lifesaving medical supplies and equipment continue to be turned away while our patients die,' said Rosa Crestoni, a MSF medical coordinator at a Port au Prince hospital. 'It is like working in a war situation. We don't have any more morphine to manage pain for our patients.."

 

safar

Merowe wrote:

A_J wrote:

Merowe wrote:
While I figure the Belgian medical staff that evacuated a functional hospital last night in UN trucks, leaving all the wounded AND untreated behind, get the top prize so far for cultural sensitivity.

Well, the Belgian doctors who evacuated (not last night, but a few days ago) were evacuated because they didn't have any security . . . security which you are now arguing against providing.

When every tool in your kit is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail. In Haiti we see the world's largest military and its wannabe northern neighbor busily converting a humanitarian disaster into a 'security issue' on the back of a United Nations military presence that regards the local populace as hostiles best viewed down the gunsights of an automatic weapon from the back of an APC.

The Belgians are pathetic assholes because instead of using the eyes and ears God gave them they followed UN advice and evacuated.

 

It has been confirmed that the UN gave no such order to evacuate. It was a decision made by the leader of the Belgian team.

NDPP

Democracy Now: How Western Domination Has Undermined Haiti's Ability to Recover:

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/20/journalist_kim_ives_on_how_decades

"Why can't President Aristide come back? He wants to. He has said so. The government hasn't given or renewed his diplomatic passport which has expired. They haven't given him a laisser-passer to come to the country. That's all that's needed.

If the government of Barack Obama or any other government wanted to really provide support here, even maybe more than all the C-130s we see offloading not just food and medical supplies, but guns and lots of them,

this would be to send a plane to South Africa and bring Aristide here. It would create such a tremendous groundswell, a counter-earthquake, if you will, of popular hope and pride and victory, that it would go a long way to rebuilding the necessary moral balance to weather the storm.."

 

SparkyOne

Don't aid workers have the right to fear for their own safety?

 

yarg

remind wrote:

From Maysie's  CBC link, and thanks maysie for the links...

 

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Relief workers have said the damaged port has prevented large ships from docking and stymied the delivery of food and emergency supplies to victims of last week's earthquake.

Bottlenecks at the damaged harbour and at the capital's airport continue to make it difficult to distribute supplies

 

And yet cruise ships have no problems at the "private" docks.

 

There are a number of really ignorant posts in this thread, this one is no more particular then several others, but honestly, it shouldn't take a lot of thought to see the difference between anchoring a cruise ship off shore of a beach and trying to unload tons of cargo at a ruined port with no infrastructure.  Some of you need to stop looking for the boogeyman in every closet, the reality of this situation is terrible enough without it, are there no depths to which you will not sink in order to score ideological points?  I think no, though no doubt it's mere moments before the americans start lobbing bombs and missles from thier evil war machines..I think some of you would be happier if we provided no aid at all, what a delicious feeding frenzy that would provide, and while you are sharpening your knives others are actually doing something.

Unionist

Holy crap, that was inspiring - where do I enlist?

 

A_J

remind wrote:
From Maysie's  CBC link, and thanks maysie for the links...

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Relief workers have said the damaged port has prevented large ships from docking and stymied the delivery of food and emergency supplies to victims of last week's earthquake.

Bottlenecks at the damaged harbour and at the capital's airport continue to make it difficult to distribute supplies

And yet cruise ships have no problems at the "private" docks.

Pictures of the cruise ship (well, video and pictures).

While there are all kinds of concerns about cruise ships and tourists showing up at a time like this, the cruise ship isn't really "docking" - it is anchored in a bay - so at least it's not taking up strained port resources.

NDPP

US Humanitarian Aid Looks More Like US Invasion

http://www.blackagendareport.com?q=content/us-humanitarian-aid-looks-mor...

"If everything the United States does appears to be related to its imperial mission, that's because it's true.

It is understandable that many African Americans are making comparisons between the militarized character of the US intervention in Haiti's earthquake disaster and the federal government's largely military response to the Katrina catastrophe in New Orleans...

For all practical purposes, the US Southern Command is the occupying power in Haiti.

What we are observing is imperialism in action - under cover of disaster.."

SparkyOne

I feel the same way Yarg.  I don't think anyone here would prefer if we sent NO aid at all but that's how some posters almost come across doesn't it? I see the need to be critical in situations like this and not all yay us you're everyones saviors but some people seem more interested in being critical for the sake of being critical.

Good point about the difference between a cruise ship putting anchor down in the middle of a bay and a cargo ship unloading thousands of tons of equipment.  Comments like these are made by people who are looking for boogymen and don't have any practical knowledge about what they are talking about.  Too much time spent looking for the boogyman in every closet means the real thieves will walk in your front door.

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I think some of you would be happier if we provided no aid at all, what a delicious feeding frenzy that would provide, and while you are sharpening your knives others are actually doing something.

If Canada sends aid it gets criticized. Not enough, not getting there fast enough.

If Canada doesn't send enough aid it gets criticized for not sending enough.

If we send in the army we get accused of a hostile take over.

If we don't send the army people yell where the hell is the army?

If we send security we get accused of being distracted from the real issues.

If we don't send security and relief workers are too fearful to venture out we get accused of letting down the people of Haiti.

I didn't want to say anything because someone brought up a good point in another thread.  Why are we being critical of people who are critical on a critical forum    Okay, point taken. Some people take it a little too far though IMO. . I would probably feel better about being THAT critical (about everything) if I donated more than $15 or I was actually heading to Haiti to help out.   I'm a chicken shit I'm staying home flying gives me anxeity attacks I would pobably die in Haiti because I would step somewhere I shouldn't and fall or something.  I'm okay with being afraid of something like that but I have a lot of respect for the workers who fly across the world to go help out.

I just can't understand how some can be as critical as they are.

safar

Sparky and Yarg you won't win this one!

That exactly what the forum is "Why are we being critical of people who are critical on a critical forum" I learnt Quickly!!!!

But in any case, who says most of us may not have donated more than $15 or are not organizing fundraisers as we speak?

Wink

kropotkin1951 kropotkin1951's picture

Gee whiz golly.  Sophisticated military cannot land desperately needed supplies on sandy level beach.  I am totally impressed with the ability of the greatest military power in the world.  

If there was a Cuban facility at that beach instead of the Royal Caribbean they would be integrating it into the supply chain and getting desperately needed boxes of medical supplies on to the beach instead of playing volleyball and drinking beer.  Haiti just another failed state that has had American interference for more than a century.  The worst recipe for those poor people is be more American "aid."  

As for fund raising I will do some now.  Please give generously to the Cuban relief teams on the ground who are not carrying weapons only medical supplies.

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Canadian Network on Cuba
www.canadiannetworkoncuba.ca 

January 18, 2010 

Dear Friends,  

In response to the horrendous suffering of the Haitian people resulting from the earthquake and its many aftershocks, many Canadians have been wondering what the most effective way to provide aid is. The Canadian-Cuban Friendship Association of Toronto has proposed the Cuba for Haiti fundraising campaign which is also endorsed by the Canadian Network on Cuba as a national effort.  

Cuba has an unequalled record in helping people in crises such as the earthquake in Pakistan and natural disasters in many other countries.  In fact it has set up a special emergency unit, the Henry Reeve Medical Brigade, to respond to such disasters.  At the time of the earthquake in Haiti, 402 Cuban internationalists, 302 of them medical personnel, had already been helping Haitians.  These together with many of the 500 Haitian doctors who had been trained in Cuba free of charge formed the essential early group of lifesavers, attending to 1,102 Haitian patients in the first 24 hours after the earthquake. They have continued their work, boosted by an additional medical brigade which arrived promptly from Cuba.   

We believe that this kind of unprecedented and invaluable help which Cuba has been giving Haiti for eleven years deserves to be supported as strongly as possible.  The CNC urges you to support Cuba in this work by giving a donation to “The Mackenzie-Papineau Memorial Fund,” indicating on your cheque’s memo line “Cuba for Haiti”.   

Charitable receipts will be issued by the Mackenzie-Papineau Memorial Fund (Charitable Org - Revenue Canada Reg, #88876 9197RR0001).   

Your donation should be mailed to:  

The Mackenzie-Papineau Memorial Fund &  
Friends of the Mac-Pap Battalion, Int'l Brigades 
Att: S. Skup 
56 Riverwood Terrace 
Bolton, ON L7E 1S4 

The “Cuba for Haiti” contributions will go into a special account, ensuring that 100% of all donations are used for medical support and aid to Haiti. We are working directly with The Cuban Embassy in Ottawa and the Consulate General in Toronto.   

Sincerely, 
Isaac Saney, CNC Co-chair & and National Spokesperson,
Tamara Hansen, CNC Co-Chair
Keith Ellis, CNC Coordinator  “Cuba for Haiti”

 

The bolded part above is what earthquake relief is supposed to be about. 

E.P.Houle

Let's hear it for Obama. The new American invasion is three days old. It's such a classic; take the airports, the port, and the radio stations. 10,000 automatic weopons, predators flying overhead and the mass media fully fed. The Haitians are as well off as they are inspite of the USA, not because of it. The coup in the USA is going well too! Every soldier there should be black and speak creole to boot. I'm sorry, I retract that; there should be no soldiers there and those guys don't have a problem with lawlessness, they may have a problem with outsiders and thieves. Silk underwear on Wall Street and malnutician for the kids.

Here in Vancouver we expect the invasion in 20 days, you can see the groundwork all over the city for the "Olympics". rah  Albert Speers architecture everywhere and the teachers are getting laid off. Getting American aid is is like watching the bombing of Iraq. Is there anybody they haven't bombed?

Just to keep my hyperbole in check ask how is it that a single suicide bomber can kill 8 CIA agents in a permanent office in a remote 'Ghani village; how many offices are there? 2, 20, 200. 2000, 20,000, I think larger. at least one more zero and that ain't democracy.

SparkyOne

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/...

Some highlights of the article

Quote:

The gangsters have stepped into the law and order vacuum, notably in the sprawling shanty town of Cite Soleil which they dominated before being locked up following police operations supported by United Nations troops over the last three years.

"Even as we are digging bodies out of buildings, they are trying to attack our officers," said Aristide Rosemond a Cite Soleil police inspector.

 

The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief.

Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital.

"The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said.

The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line.

"We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer.

Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands.

"If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area.

Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison.

"The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father.

 

What's your definition of lawlessness EP Houle?

Fidel

SparkyOne wrote:
What's your definition of lawlessness EP Houle?

Most Canadians have never known a similar chaotic event. Except for the ice storm that hit Ottawa Valley and parts of Quebec in 1998. I remember hearing about some panicked Canadians then who were screaming at authorites because their telephone service was out, or they were without electricity for a number of days. There were even reports of Canadians thieving other Canadians portable generators in the Ottawa area. I thought to myself at the time, so much for thoughts of Canadians being above all that.  The first tight situtation that comes along, and some of us take to acting like hoodlums.

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.... so then apparently the cruise ship that took a tonage of bottled water, in order to try and make a positive PR optic, on big pallets. can't off load them then, if they just moor off shore!

But yet they did!

 

:rolleyes:

 

And oh look...now we get a "gangster meme",  going on  for good measure!

 

FFS

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SparkyOne wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/...

Some highlights of the article

Quote:

The gangsters have stepped into the law and order vacuum, notably in the sprawling shanty town of Cite Soleil which they dominated before being locked up following police operations supported by United Nations troops over the last three years.

"Even as we are digging bodies out of buildings, they are trying to attack our officers," said Aristide Rosemond a Cite Soleil police inspector.

 

The Haitian authorities, already weak and reliant on UN forces, are now crippled by heavy casualties and widespread destruction of infrastructure while international peacekeepers are focused on disaster relief.

Jean-Max Bellerive, Haiti's prime minister, has despaired of the state's ability to tackle a new post-earthquake crime wave sweeping his country's devastated capital.

"The problem is they have weapons so we cannot send the population or just any policemen to capture them," he said.

The morale and strength of Haiti's police has been severely reduced by the loss of experienced officers, killed or injured, leaving recently trained recruits to hold the line.

"We do not have the capacity to fix this situation. Haiti needs help. The Americans are welcome here. But where are they? We need them here on the street with us," said Dorsainvil Robenson, a police officer.

Police officers, whose limited success against slum gang lords has been based on the support of armoured UN troops, have now effectively given up by appealing to local vigilantes to take the law into their own hands.

"If you don't kill the criminals, they will all come back," Haitian police officers announce over loudspeakers from heavily armed checkpoints in the slum area.

Residents say that people have been killed and several women raped in a turf war between gangsters nicknamed "Belony" and "Bled" in the six days following the earthquake which destroyed the prison.

"The trouble is starting," said Jean-Semaine Delice, a 51-year-old father.

 

What's your definition of lawlessness EP Houle?

Yes, the media is having a field day creating the perception of violence being committed by the poor. Yet we know men have been bound and killed in cold blood by men describing themselves as "plain clothes police". And we know the police allowed a mob to take a prisoner who was then dragged from a vehicle, beaten, and set on fire. Yes, but it is the poor in the slums who are violent. Send in the thugs with guns to massacre the poor! Liars.

Sue Montgomery, writing for the Montreal Gazette, has been stationed in Cite de Soleil and has been sleeping on the ground, outdoors, on cardboard. She said, yesterday, on CBC, she is safe, the slum residents are open and friendly, giving, and generous, and there is no violence. She is there, among them, and has nothing to earn nor gain from inventing a perception of danger or safety.

CBC Podcast

A_J

remind wrote:
. . . so then apparently the cruise ship that took a tonage of bottled water, in order to try and make a positive PR optic, on big pallets. can't off load them then, if they just moor off shore!

But yet they did!

Turns out I was wrong: the ships don't just moor offshore - and I finally found a picture of this fabled dock:

Cruiseships can now Dock in Labadee Beach Haiti (11/12/09)

This would be absolutely useless for cargo - no access for vehicles, no gantry, nothing.  It would be a complete waste of time for any ship to try and off load supplies here.

Plus, I guess you didn't bother to do some research as to where it's docking (other than "Haiti").  From Labadee to Cap-Haitian it's 6-7 km over an unpaved road - only another 200 km to go to Port-au-Prince.

 

Fidel

[url=http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17000]The Militarization of Emergency Aid to Haiti: Is it a Humanitarian Operation or an Invasion?[/url]

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Haiti has been under foreign military occupation since the US instigated February 2004 Coup d'Etat. The contingent of US forces under SOUTHCOM combined with those of MINUSTAH brings foreign military presence in Haiti to close to 20,000 in a country of 9 million people. In  comparison in Afghanistan, prior to Obama's military surge, combined US and NATO forces were of the order of 70,000 for a population of 28 million. In other words, on a per capita basis there will be more troops in Haiti than in Afghanistan.

Recent US Military Interventions in Haiti...

Haiti is another US-managed client state.

 

E.P.Houle

SparkyOne,

Have you considered that the Lawlessness is that the plantation owner's thugs are being turned back?Fidel "Haiti is another  client-state", code for plantation. Before this I never thought this was State Department of USA channel. That isn't a Unionist and that's not Fidel!

E

NDPP

A Haiti Disaster Relief Scenario was Envisaged by the US Military One Day Before the Earthquake

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=17122

"A Haiti disaster-relief scenario had been envisaged at the headquarters of US Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) in Miami one day prior to the earthquake..

The TISC is an essential component of the militarization of emergency relief. The US Military through DISA oversees the Information Communications Sharing System controlled by the US military, which is made available to approved non governmental partner organizations involved in Haiti relief efforts.

The fundamental concept underlying DISA's Transnational Information Sharing Cooperation project (TISC) is to 'Achieve Interoperability with Warfighters, Coalition Partners and NGOs'

There are no details on the nature of the tests conducted on January 11 at SOUTHCOM"

'Only the Strong' Get Haiti Aid:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/01/21/2797407.htm?section=justin

"I think now, if the aid is not distributed, it's time for us to start pointing fingers. Now the aid is there, at the airport, let's get it out."

The Real Looting in Haiti

http://www.accuracy.org/newsrelease.php?articleId=2157

"The real looting in Haiti is not the people trying to get food to survive. The real looting of Haiti is the economic policies of the US and France [and Canada] as well as institutions such as the IMF and World Bank, in addition to the disaster capitalism that is fast setting in. In Haiti, 200 years of crippling debt imposed by France, the US and other colonial powers drained the country's financial resources.

Military occupation and presidential coups coordinated and funded by the US have devastated the nation's government infrastructure. Although the country has more than 10,000 NGOs, many of them are profiteering off the small nation's misery.."

Haiti, Katrina and Why I Won't Give to Haiti Through the Red Cross:

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/haiti-katrina-and-why-i-wont...

NDPP

Haiti's Tragedy: A Crime of US Imperialism

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/pers-j21.shtml

"Now for an entire week, with the whole world watching, millions of Haitians have been left abandoned without medical care, food water or shelter, as US military cargo planes have ferried in thousands of soldiers and Marines, and US Naval and Coast Guard vessels have mounted patrols off Haiti's shores to prevent anyone from trying to escape.

The absence of any concerted rescue effort is not an accident, nor is the agonizingly slow arrival of food, water and medicine in far from adequate quantities, merely a matter of logistics. The claim that the US military, which was able to pour a quarter of a million troops into Iraq and conquer Baghdad within barely 2 weeks, could not rush water, food and supplies to traumatized earthquake survivors 700 miles from the US mainland, is a contemptible lie.

What is involved is a deliberate and sinister policy characterized by a gross indifference to human life that borders on the genocidal.."

Haiti's Dying Elderly Says 'Nobody Cares'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34969140/ns/world_news-haiti_earthquake/

"More than a week after their nursing home collapsed, dozens of elderly Haitians are still begging for food and medicine in a downtown Port-au-Prince slum barely a mile from the international airport where tons of aid are pouring in.

'It's as if everybody has forgotten us, nobody cares,' said Phileas Julien, 78, a sometimes delerious blind man in a wheelchair who has appointed himself spokesman for the 84 surviving residents. 'Or maybe they really do just want us to starve to death."

'We're hungry, we're so hungry,' lamented 77 year old Felice Colin, one of those who still had enough energy to speak intelligibly at Sunset Wednesday. 'There's such a desperate need...' She expressed anger at the seeming lack of outside interest in the residents of the nursing home, which is close to the area around the collapsed presidential palace and Roman Catholic cathederal which teem with journalists and international relief teams.."

Haiti's Mass Graves, Doctors Overloaded

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/22299227/detail.html

"Workers are carving out mass graves on a hillside north of Haiti's capital, using earth movers to bury 10,000 earthquake victims in a single day while relief workers warn the death toll could increase.

Medical clinics have 12 day patient backlogs, untreated injuries are festering and makeshift camps having thousands of survivors could foster disease experts said.."

US Military Operations Block Relief Efforts in Haiti:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/jan2010/hait-j21.shtml

'The US military intervention in Haiti, after the January 12 earthquake that killed an estimated 100,000 to 200,000 people, continues to block arrival of critical supplies to the devastated country. Quake victims - including hundreds of thousands of wounded and an estimated 3 million Haitians made homeless - lack access to food, water and life saving medical equipment.."

 

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