Monia Mazigh on the rising tide of Islamophobia

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MegB
Monia Mazigh on the rising tide of Islamophobia

A must read for anyone concerned about ongoing and unabated Islamophobia:

http://rabble.ca/columnists/2018/01/islamophobia-continues-fester-wake-q...

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lagatta4

Thanks. I don't like the term "Islamophobia", but I think it is our duty as activists to support the call by the survivors of the murderous attack on the Mosque in Québec. Come to think of it, "antisemitism" is another term that had very murky origins, devised by actual antisemites who wanted to give a scientific cast to their hatred of Jews. I think it should be possible to accept this term in the sense of "fear and hatred of Muslims" even among those of us who are hardcore secularists and don't feel required to go along with the beliefs of any of the Abrahamic monotheisms (far more similar than different).

Mr. Magoo Mr. Magoo's picture

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I don't like the term "Islamophobia"

Personally, I don't even much care for the term "homophobia", which I think is probably where the whole "_____-o-phobia" thing started.  When did "-phobia" stop meaning "fear of" and start meaning "dislike of"?

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Mr. Magoo wrote:

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I don't like the term "Islamophobia"

Personally, I don't even much care for the term "homophobia", which I think is probably where the whole "_____-o-phobia" thing started.  When did "-phobia" stop meaning "fear of" and start meaning "dislike of"?

That shift is simply a reflection of the close relationship between fear and hatred on the emotional spectrum.  Anger towards and rage towards a group of people or towards a religion or a point of view is almost always rooted in deepseated, irrational fear towards the group or the concept towards which rage and hatred are expressed.

lagatta4

That is true, and despite my misgivings about the term (by the way, these derive from secular friends of Muslim cultural origins, certainly not from nativist bigots) I think we have to accept this flawed term describing bigotry, given the gravity of the situation. Though it is essential to stand up for secularists of any faith community who refuse sexism, homophobia or restrictions on people's personal behavour that hurts nobody. And that does not refer only to Islam.

We have to remember that this is about a racist MURDERING people, and gravely injuring others.

Ken Burch Ken Burch's picture

lagatta4 wrote:

That is true, and despite my misgivings about the term (by the way, these derive from secular friends of Muslim cultural origins, certainly not from nativist bigots) I think we have to accept this flawed term describing bigotry, given the gravity of the situation. Though it is essential to stand up for secularists of any faith community who refuse sexism, homophobia or restrictions on people's personal behavour that hurts nobody. And that does not refer only to Islam.

We have to remember that this is about a racist MURDERING people, and gravely injuring others.

True.  And which makes the discussion of what terms we should use to describe the pathological bigotry that causes this a bit off-point to say the least.

What we are talking about is hate-based homicide.

Unionist

Despite the inappropriateness of the term "Islamophobia", it is absolutely necessary for all Canadians to take a clear stand condemning this rising tide.

Monia Mazigh, sadly, isn't the best spokesperson for human rights in this regard. To this day, she candidly opposes homosexuality, citing her religious beliefs. That just isn't good enough. Years ago, she declared that if elected she would abstain on the same-sex marriage vote (2004), in defiance of the NDP's clear policy in favour. I'm sad to note that she hasn't seen the light to this day, invoking offensive arguments like, "well, it isn't just us Muslims who are against homosexuality":

Monia Mazigh, in 2016 wrote:
In 2004, I run as a federal candidate for the New Democratic Party in the Ottawa South riding. I run in the midst of the same-sex marriage debate in Canada. My position was the following: as a religious person, I couldn’t vote for the same-sex legislation but as I human right advocate I couldn’t oppose rights to other groups who have been persecuted and oppressed. So I decided that in case I will be elected, I would abstain from voting. [...]

Islam is not the only religion that doesn’t accept homosexuality. So why are the calls today are directed exclusively to Islam to re-examine its attitudes? Why aren’t we talking more about the extremists white supremacist Christian groups celebrating the killings of homosexuals or the heavy presence (in numbers and in funding) of US evangelical Christians in Uganda for instance, and their role in passing the “Kill the gay Bill” in 2014?

Using women rights, freedom of expression, LGBT rights, as wedge issues to demonize Islam and Muslim should be questioned as this will serve to only to make some bigots more confortable in their bubbles and speeches and won’t help us to see and get to know all the ongoing discussions and diversity of opinions of Muslims on these issues.

She makes important points about imperialist aggression against Muslim and other countries. It's a shame that she doesn't yet acknowledge that her personal religious beliefs - to which she has an absolute democratic right - don't give her or anyone a pass for homophobia. Not in this century.

lagatta4

I think any progressive party should make lgbt+ rights and equality, like the equality of women, racial equality and abortion and contraceptive rights, something its members must follow the party line on.

Do we have another thread on Islamophobia or hatred and discrimination affecting Muslims? I just wanted to raise the issue of the man accused of a synagogue bombing and jailed for years, on the flimsiest of evidence. Both France and Canada failed him, and many called him out as the author of a heinous crime without proof.

http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/dr-dawgs-blawg/2018/01/canadian-man-accu...

MegB

Finally, Diab's story is making the rounds. Thanks for posting the link lagatta.

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I'm totally not trying to derail this thread, but I couldn't find a more appropriate thread for this:

Reported hijab attack on 11-year-old girl 'did not happen,' Toronto police say

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Pugash said police don't know how the story escalated.

Not even a guess?