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Bookish Agrarian

It was the rythmn that was off, not the teleprompter speech. And those eyes. God they are dead.

In the end though, it is the top of the ticket voters go for, not the bottom. So in a few days it all won't matter.

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Originally posted by Boom Boom:
[b]A pundit on CNN today said Palin will be making the rounds of the GOP base - christian fundies - over the next few weeks until the debates start, to keep her away from the major pundit shows such as Face The Nation. Guess the GOP is afraid she'll f*ck up when experienced people ask the hard probing questions. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img] [/b]

She will be enclosed in a protective bubble. The VP debate in a few weeks will be the first time she will get hit with tough questions.

Michelle

Whoopsie, looks like the Democrats took the bait again. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has referred to Palin as "shrill".

Idiots. I still say the Republicans chose Palin, in large part because they're hoping to bring the Democratic misogynists out of the woodwork.

[ 03 September 2008: Message edited by: Michelle ]

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Originally posted by Michelle:
[b]Whoopsie, looks like the Democrats took the bait again. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has referred to Palin as "shrill".

Idiots. I still say the Republicans chose Palin, in large part because they're hoping to bring the Democratic misogynists out of the woodwork.[/b]


Very idiotic.

Are you calling Reid a mysogynist based on one stupid comment or are there other examples of Reid comments that support putting that label on him?

Bookish Agrarian

Where was the press aid? They should have been throwing themselves on the phone or microphone or whatever. God what an idiotic, sexist and revealing thing to say.

Coyote

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Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
[b]Watching the Republican convention is like a window into a bizarre, scary alternate universe.

Can these people really be that deluded?[/b]


Maybe.

But their essential message has not changed since Reagan, and they have held the White House for 20 of the last 28 years.

Rolling our eyes does not stop them from amassing the legislative, judicial, corporate, and yes [b]popular[/b] strength to be the natural political power centre of the USA.

It may be that the Dems will pull this one off.

But this is the kind of politics that the Republicans understand in their gut, and it works for them.

Doug

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Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski:
[b]Watching the Republican convention is like a window into a bizarre, scary alternate universe.

Can these people really be that deluded?[/b]


Because of that aspect, I thought they were really preaching to their own choir. People in the political center aren't going to like what they saw if they watched this convention. That's a bit perplexing to me, since it seemed that the whole point of choosing John McCain was to choose someone who had wider appeal than George Bush.

babblerwannabe

i think her speech was very effective in hurting Obama.

martin dufresne

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Bookish Agrarian: I took to mean that the Log Cabin Republicans are like REAL Women in Canada in that they are actively working agaisnt their own interests. I see absolutely no anti-gay shot in there anywhere, only anti-Republican.

I tend to agree with Revolution Please here, for the reasons he outlined. Moralizing members of political minorities is slim pickings when it's the majorities that run the show, totally immune from your barbs. Also, I am wary of the complacency in thinking that your enemy is "working against his or her own interests". It just means s/he isn't following your program, but also that s/he has the leeway to identify with a more powerful group, usually along class lines (as the cartoon points out). And I think you're in deep trouble if you are counting on that person to fall in line for your agenda to happen.

[ 04 September 2008: Message edited by: martin dufresne ]

Bookish Agrarian

Well I'm not going to try and figure out what someone is saying anyway. I was merely suggesting what I thought those two posters were trying to say.

On the speech. I still think it was waaay to negative, just a series of snide and innaccurate remarks. We'll see, but I think a mistake was made tonight.

ghoris

I just find the hypocrisy of the GOP breathtaking. I'm sure others have raised this point, but let's compare and contrast:

2004: What Kerry did in Vietnam 30 years ago is irrelevant and has nothing to do with his ability to lead (and let's sweep the fact that both of our candidates were draft-dodgers under the rug while we're at it).
2008: John McCain is qualified to be President because he was a POW in Vietnam 30 years ago.

2004: Teenagers should not be having sex outside of marriage. It's a terrible sin and Jay-sus will condemn them to hell!
2008: Pre-marital sex is A-OK as long as it involves people who are middle class and white, won't even think of having an abortion, and are willing to have a quickie shotgun marriage.

2004: John Edwards is a one-term Senator - he's too inexperienced to be VP! He's not qualified!
2008: Sarah Palin has been Governor of a tiny state for 20 months - that's plenty of experience! She has foreign policy experience - Alaska is right next to Russia!

(Wishing there was a vomiting smiley....)

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Originally posted by ghoris:
[b]I just find the hypocrisy of the GOP breathtaking. [/b]

Why? The Repubs supporters are religious, they have been trained, or should I say, conditioned, to be hyprocrits and see nothing wrong with it. Because God is one their side and basically anything goes when working for God. [img]biggrin.gif" border="0[/img]

Willowdale Wizard

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--bYUTcsdV4]Not coincidentally, Obama's campaign posted up a YouTube video yesterday about "Republicans for Obama" in Indiana.[/url]

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Mitt Romney is trashing the "Liberal elite" in the east of the country.

[url=http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/]CNN's blog had good every 7-minute posts on the speeches.[/url]

Paul Begala:

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What's happened to Mitt Romney? He was a pretty strong campaigner, but at the convention he fell into self-parody.

A guy from Massachusetts who's worth $500 million, whose father was the president of American Motors, the governor of Michigan and a cabinet secretary — he's criticizing the "Eastern elite"?

Who is he kidding? Again and again he spat out the word "liberal." I was waiting for him to attack the pro-choice, pro-gay-rights, pro-universal health care liberal governor of Massachusetts — Mitt Romney.

I suppose Mitt has decided to rise above principle. Did you notice he never once uttered the word, "Bush."


Bill Schneider:

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How did chants of "USA" become a term of defiance and division? It sounds ugly, like they’re saying: "We're real Americans – and you’re not."

[url=http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/03/schneider-huckabee-strik... thought Huckabee's speech was effective in terms of addressing working-class Republicans.[/url] It was less ugly than Giuliani's. Apart from the creepy anecdote about school desks, and apart from quoting Gerald Ford and attributing it to Lincoln.

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My own father held down two jobs, barely affording the little rented house I grew up in. My Dad worked hard, lifted heavy things, and got his hands dirty. The only soap we had at my house was Lava. Heck, I was in college before I found out it wasn't supposed to hurt to take a shower. I'm not a Republican because I grew up rich, but because I didn't want to spend the rest of my life poor, waiting for the government to rescue me.

[ 04 September 2008: Message edited by: Willowdale Wizard ]

Caissa

Who was her "joke" about pitbulls and Hockey mom's designed to ingratiate her with? I only caught the sound bite this morning. was it contextualized? Was she merely describing herself?

[ 04 September 2008: Message edited by: Caissa ]

Sharon

She referred to herself as a hockey mom and the cameras went to a segment of the audience who were waving "hockey mom" signs and wildly applauding her reference. She was reacting to them when she made the pit bull/lipstick remark. Her timing was very good as it was throughout the speech.

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I saw a clip of her this morning making that stupid, meaningless joke last night, and it occurred to me that she is trying to present herself as no-nonsense and tough, sort of a Dick Cheney with lipstick.

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If McCain is elected and dies in office (he's 72), Palin becomes President - I guess that's the scenario I'm imagining today.

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