Rebranding of the NDP (Thread 4)

BTW people, have you voted yet in rabble's poll on the NDP's name change?  If not, do so here if you'd like. :)

Currently, more than half the people who took the poll support a name change to either the Democratic Party or something else, and 47% want to stick with NDP.

Good post, North Report. Yes the conservatives were able to somewhat shake the Brian Mulroney legacy after rebranding themselves and uniting as ReformaTories under a new banner. They still only managed an exaggerated minority in 2008, leaving me to believe that the ghost of Brian Mulroney still haunts that party. And the same old Liberals could do with a totally fabulous makeover, too, since receiving record poor results last election.

Sorry if this has been said elsewhere, but I haven't been paying too close attention to this, since I've been laughing too hard:

DP = double penetration. The NDP may not be taken too seriously right now, but imagine the jokes at their expense if they change their name to DP. "Erm, Mr. Layton, Olivia, so, ah, who's the third member in the DP?" Give your head a shake, and for christ sake, do a simple search on Google! Fourth result, Urban Dictionary:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dp

Funny enough, the worst brought up so far (that I saw) was 'displaced person,' and I didn't  have the heart to mention what you did karmapolice.

Well, at least it's not as bad as those teabagging parties in the US!

Same warning as doug applies.

Haha, it's already making the rounds:

CP: NDP proposal to change party name could prove embarrassing in Quebec

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cp&page=2 This is the urban dictioanary for cp. The first definition is "child porn."

Further examination of the LP, and BQ abbreviations reveals further unsavory meanings.  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lp&page=3   

  If the media uses our initials to discredit us, when it doesn't use initials for the other parties, that's just more unfairness that we will have to deal with.

Edited to take out the unnecessary sexism.

Banjo wrote:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cp&page=2 This is the urban dictioanary for cp. The first definition is "child porn."

Further examination of the LP, and BQ abbreviations reveals further unsavory meanings.  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lp&page=3   

  If the media uses our initials to discredit us, when it doesn't use initials for the other parties, that's just more unfairness that we will have to deal with.

Edited to take out the unnecessary sexism.

Under the Urban Dictionary, not the best source I agree, the DP definition I cited was the first one listed. The NDP are called what, the N-Dippers? The Conservatives don't call them themseleves the CP party, they're either the Conservatives or Tories, and the Liberals are the Grits, or just the natural governing party, which every Liberal believes is true. I've heard of DP before, but never any of the references to LB or BQ listed in Urban Dictionary, aside from the obvious ones like long play. But hey, if you're into DP, then that's OK, I'm not judgemental.

The NDP, are called  the Dippers, can't call the CONservatives, Tories, the Tories were taken over in a hostile manner and thus their historic name died with them, and as for  the Liberals as Grits, if they want to be called  a name for cooked ground corn that is their problem.

Frankly, I see nothing wrong with being called by an acronym, in fact it has become fashionable and more people relate to acronyms than do not these days. It is also easier to twitter and text with. :D

RBC, BMO, MGD, CIBC, etc, all see the need to market themselves as an acronymand indeed want to be viewed  and talked about as an acronym.

Who says Royal Bank or Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce anymore besides no one?

the irony would be if the name democratic party happened to be owned by another political party lets say south of the border where they control the house, senate and that house that is white cause the brits burned it down

well that could be one way to get press. be sued by the usofa dems for using a name.

The polls consensus voting, I could choose two!  

End the anachronistic anagram!

Fidel wrote:

Good post, North Report. Yes the conservatives were able to somewhat shake the Brian Mulroney legacy after rebranding themselves and uniting as ReformaTories under a new banner. They still only managed an exaggerated minority in 2008, leaving me to believe that the ghost of Brian Mulroney still haunts that party. And the same old Liberals could do with a totally fabulous makeover, too, since receiving record poor results last election.

Its the National Post post, not a North Report post. Everything we need to know about it right there.

"Here's Mr. Broadbent: "One of the things that's irked me about this silly talk about changing the name of the party is we're not a democratic party, we're a social democratic party."

Then why not call it that?

As I suggested the great name change debate was much ado about nothing.

The quote from the grassroots co-author is particularly note-worthy given the hysteria in the media about all this.

Time runs out on NDP name-change vote

Updated Sun. Aug. 16 2009 11:01 AM ET

CTV.ca News Staff

The Federal New Democratic Party will keep its name, for now, as time ran out at the annual convention in Halifax before officials could move a resolution to consider dropping the word "New" from the party's name.

Delegates were originally expected to vote on the resolution Sunday, but party officials had warned on Saturday they might not have enough time.

The resolution, which, if passed, would have led to consultations on changing the party's name, was to have been introduced within a one-hour period. However, that ended before the resolution could be brought forward.

The proposed change had some critics suggesting that the NDP hoped to align itself more closely with Democrats in the United States.

Convention delegate Mariano Klimowicz, a co-author of the name-change resolution, denied the claim, and said dropping "New" from the party's name would help Canadians better understand the party's platform.

"We're very, very distinct from the Democratic party in the United States," said Klimowicz, 51. "We're more socialist-minded, more program-minded."

So long and thanks for all the fish.

Dewar for sure.

Oh, BA please do not say "so long", your voice is needed here, and I know the attacks against you were intolerable, as was the thread that labelled all NDPer's white supremists, like anyone of the supporters of said thread title has any room to talk and cast aspersions, but please do not let them drive you away.

BA, that "so long" sounded ominous; fish are not your specialty - and neither is hemlock.  Really need to hear more from a reasonable voice of just where New Democrats should be headed out there in the townships.

Daniel, there was no filibuster 

   Appeals to consider sensibilities of the other viewer/poster fall into empty space, remind. Check out the convention news instead. 

George Victor wrote:

 

   Appeals to consider sensibilities of the other viewer/poster fall into empty space, remind. Check out the convention news instead. 

The appeal to consider the sensibilities of the other viewer/poster fall into empty space, indeed. You seem to think that the outrage generated when people offer a critique based in a comprehensive analysis of race in the context of systemic norms built into any organization that functions as an integral part of the sociopolitical structure that inherits the legacy of the creation of the Canadian colonial state, is not offensive to those who are excluded from the white supremacist structure.

I find that interesting in the light of the fact that most people would take the observation that NDP is a patriarchal structure in stride, as a matter of obvious fact, rather than personalizing the observation as personal attack like they do when people raise the issue of systemic racism.