Feminist viewpoints on prostitution and sex work Volume 3

what the hell do you know about our plans, what work is being done and where we are with it?do you honestly tink i am going to ever share any of our plans here again?the personal attacks and phone calls etc. to people with whom we partner and our supporters does not make this a safe place to share what we are doing no to move forward. with no funding, an anti olympic brothel campaign and the economic downturn. do you seriously think we are going get any funding...?any where....?even for exiting ideas....? no ...becuase the government, like you could give 2 shits what happens to us.

you are question my motives and desire, wow nice low blow to a person working her ass of for freeto try to reachthese goals in the face of overwhelming misrepresentation of our plans and our intentions.

you have alot of nerve lady to question my commitment, what have you done......?oh yeah........nothing

and once again, it is NOT a fact that we wanted olympic brothels, read the damn reports. we wanted to creat alternative income sourcesfor workers, period for the games. you keep beating that dead horse though.

why don't you go hang out with your buddies on with leather?.you provide no proof and still assert these misrepresentations. i find it completely tasteless and rude for you to continue to declare my so called dishonest intentions. i don't know where you grew up but let me tell you.......

i never accused you personally of anything remind, nice try though.

it certainly was the point. i came into babble with an open mind. hoping to discuss plans and hear about plans on the abolitionist side. look at the reception i got. i will continue to contest blanket assumtions and try to combat thhe misrepresentations of what we do. i have to say though, after all that has happen here, i am no longer comfortable sharing the details of how we will reach our goals.

i had hoped to be able to appeal to people for advice and put our plans and ideas out for all to see... but instead i have been called every name under the sun, belittled, baited, insulted, called "racial biased", misrepresented and bullied.

i do appreciate the support of members here who have expressed such but its been emotional......

This is difficult to watch.  (Figuratively)

This stuck out to me:

Quote:

So far, some of the strongest opposition has come from escort agencies threatened by the prospect of organized competition, Davis said. Politicians and local businesses have largely been supportive. Davis said the sex workers' group aims to have the co-op brothel and museum fully operating in time for the influx of tourists expected during the Olympics.

How do these men have influence?

There should be no sex work, poverty, domestic violence, etc...But we should try to protect those in danger right now...And normally we're in agreement here?  Really seems deja-vu-ish.

Thanks Jmartin, I think that's good work.

Remind, you do not own the voices of FN women and what I find offensive is that you think we all think alike. I also find it offensive that you essentially called susan racist (and got away with it)

Michelle, something is seriously wrong in these threads. You know what I mean and I wonder why susan is getting slapped down and not anyone else.

RevolutionPlease wrote:

It was from this link:

 

http://www.womensenews.org/story/the-world/071011/sex-workers-plan-broth...

it is once again a mistake by the reporter to conflate that the cafe/museum exhibit and brothel are the same thing. many people find our plans difficult to understnad, not sure why.....but it happened over and over, i guess i just need to focus the message more, it's hard though as we are trying to adress so many issues.

anyway, i have always been trying to open the restaurant/cafe in time for the olympics, but big surprise, no funding.

yes, there is a threat from business owners or organized crime. i have been updating some factions as a way to protect myself and increase understnading of those people about the intentions of our actions.

my former madame, i was almost killed working for this woman......, is a horrible person, she held my friend prisoner and forced her to work, she fined us into debt servitude and continues to bully us in anyway possible ever since.

she is extremely threatened, and has threatened us, me in prticular, on many levels.do you think there is a mechanism to complain....?nope she is still in business. and it's the sex industry's fault exploitation exists right? how bout total complcency and complete and utter failre on ther part of th police and systems intended to protect us.

in argentina one of the sex worker union orgaizers was killed, assasinated.

so yes, i would say i am at risk. if you would like to read more about working conditions indoors, dveloping capacity for change- www.wccsip.ca under resources- goes into great detail about problems facing workers indoors.

I would also suggest that we give this thread a rest.  At this point, it's mostly just bickering between two posters with occasional interjections from others, and flagged posts. 

So unless people really want to start fresh with a new thread and not just continue quoting posts from this one and sniping at each other about them, please don't bother continuing this one just for the sake of continuing it.

Thanks.