Should shared parenting be forced? Feminist critique of private bill C-422

Yep, the fee payment comes from the payer, instead of the children getting it, as fees for the payer are based upon affordable income, thus the children get that much less awarded from the affordable income decision. It is a slight of hand that most do not realize.

There is a monthly levy fee, that is calculated based on income, just as the child support is.

For example, my daughter who is not a daughter, now gets 469.00 per month instead of the 500.00 she was awarded by the courts initially, because the income of the father would not sustain the levy fee, now that she is going through FMEP.

The penalty payments are on top of the fee and have no bearing upon child support payments.

But at least if the penalty is not paid, nor the child support, said father loses his driver's license, if there are no wages showing that can be taken.

This is a response to "martin dufresne".

My name is Dave Nash. I am the founder of Cross Canada Run For The Children, the organization that you, in your previous postings, have falsely reffered to as "a new manipulative PR gimmick from the Fathers lobby." For your information, I am not a member of any Father's Rights Group. Truth be told, I do not believe in Father's Rights. Nor do I believe in Mother's Rights. What I do believe in, is Children's Rights, Parental Rights, and Human Rights. The reason for my posting today, is to offer you the opportunity to write up an Intelligent Rebuttal as to why YOU believe that Children do not deserve the Right to an Equal Relationship with both their Mother and their Father after a Divorce or Seperation. If you would like to take me up on my offer, you can email me your Rebuttal Letter at [email protected] , and I will gladly post it on my website for all of Canada to see. I look forward to hearing your response. Thank You

Dave Nash

www.crosscanadarun4thechildren.com

I thought we were "off" banning?

It does not suprise me that SHE was banned. When you have a hate filled heart, "abusive" comments will spew out of a person. If any one knows HER, please let HER know about my invitation. Thanks.

Dave Nash

Matt 15:18 - But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart...

Okay, Dave, I think you've overstayed your welcome at this point.  Sorry, but anyone who throws around female pronouns as if they were insults doesn't really belong on babble, and certainly not in our feminism forum.

Furthermore, it is not okay to call babblers or former babblers "abusive" or "hate-filled".  That's an unfair way to characterize what happened with Martin here, and an unfair way to characterize Martin himself.  If you're interested in why Martin is no longer on babble, you can read this thread instead of speculating and psychologizing.

My apologies Michelle, but i figured that because we are on a "feminism forum' that martin was a woman. Once again, my apologies. I was in no way, shape or form "throwing around female pronouns as if they were insults."

Furthermore, I qouted the word "abusive" because that is the word that was used by Bacchus in exlaining why martin was banned from the site. I used the words "Hate Filled" to describe martin because that is how martin's previous posts about my Cross Canada Run come across. Take a close look at martin's words for yourself: "A Father running, how ironic of this lobby's priorities," and "appropriating the meaning of Parental Alienation as something men would be victims of instead of usually perps." These are the words of someone who is filled with hate for a particular segment of our society, the male segment, in particular, Fathers. I make no apologies for pointing this out about martin.

Baccus, my tone did not deteriorate at all. I was simply pointing out the truth about martin. The truth is, martin could be a woman. Do any of you know him / her personally??? Online, anyone can write anything under any username and never be held accountable for doing so. How many of you actually use your real names??? How many of you post your email addresses for everyone to see??? I noticed Michelle that you don't. What about you Bacchus??? I notice that you don't publicly display it either. Neither did martin.

I just think that if you are going to publicly make the Pro Feminist, Anti-Male, Anti-Children comments that many of you on here have been making, then maybe you should stop hidding behind cute usernames and publicly state who you are, and post your email addresses, so that people who do not share your one-sided opinions can respond to them in an intelligent manner, and hopefully, help you see the bigger picture, which is, Children Do Matter and Children Do Deserve The RIGHT To Have An Equal Relationship With Both Their Mother and Their Father After A Divorce or Separation. Thank You for your time.

Dave Nash      www.crosscanadarun4thechildren.com  -  [email protected]         

I couldn't find an email address for matin. ???

Truthfully then Baccus, you don't know if martin is a man or a woman. You are going on heresay, on what others say, on what Michelle would say is "speculation." 

Remind fuck off! You are NOT a moderator, Michelle is. And if she complains about any of my statements then I'll take my lumps and apologize. But you can just fuck off

Google his name Dave and you will find him. He is NOT hiding

Good. I am glad to hear that he does. He doesn't do what many of you on here do. Still no email address can be found for him though.

Remind, if that is you real name, please remember, I am not pro-male, nor am I pro-female. I am not pro-Father, nor am I pro-mother. I am an advocate for Children's Rights. Maybe you cannot conceive of the fact that Children actually have people who love them enough to stand up for their rights. Remind, would you run across Canada for Children's Rights, or Mother's Rights??? Are you Pro-Children, or Pro-Feminist??? Think about that. The answer to that question may answer the question at the top of this forum, and that is, "Should Shared Parenting Be Forced?" Maybe if more Women were Pro-Children's Rights, then it wouldn't have to be forced.

Abusive Remind? You are the abusive one, following and harassing people. Insults lies and passive aggressive behavior to provoke others.  As long as everyone believes in the rights of women and thir ability to do as they please, they do not have to follow anyones narrow view of themselves.

Thanks Bacchus. I will do that. It is greatly appreciated.

He''ll tear you to shreds verbally. He knows his shit and can cite some good reports

Do you really think that he will be able to intelligently rebute Professor Edward Kruk's Research?

Then I look forward to hearing from him on the matter of Children Rights. I am sure Mr. Kruk would like to write a rebuttal to martin's rebuttal as well. If I receive one from martin, I will forward it to Professor Kruk and ask him to respond to it. This should be interesting.

I doubt that his argument will actually have anything to do with children's rights. Think about it, he will have to argue against the United Nations Convention On The Rights Of The Child if it does. His argument will more than likely be about womens rights. He is a Pro-Feminist Right??? Does he have any Children himself???  

Dave Nash wrote:

I doubt that his argument will actually have anything to do with children's rights.

Actually his POV on this issue is entirely centred on children's rights.

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Think about it, he will have to argue against the United Nations Convention On The Rights Of The Child if it does. His argument will more than likely be about womens rights. He is a Pro-Feminist Right??? Does he have any Children himself??? 

So why don't you contact him and see instead of speculating here?  Although, I should warn you, if somebody contacted me with the kind of attitude you're displaying here, they'd be met with radio silence.

WOW!!!

Dave you're a troll and you've long outstayed your welcome.  Remind and bacchus, you are feeding both the troll and each other to the detriment of all.

May as well close this for general deterioration.