Winnipeg North recount

Still nothing on the Elections Canada website with regard to results of the other recounts.

Stockholm wrote:

My undersytanding was that they were doing the Montmagny etc... recount this week and that it was supposed to wind up today. i don't know if all the recounts happen simultaneously.

Nipissing is starting the same time as Winnipeg North, & Etobicoke Centre starts May 18

@edmundoconnor:

No, it wasn't me. I actually thought there wouldn't be a recount. That was my opinio. I truly have no idea at all how this has come about.

I don't expect a different result either. It is a shame, once more Winnipeg North has faux populist Corporatist elected to the House, who belongs to a party that works against the very interests of the very same people who elected this guy.

Its g-d sad!

Ah, nuts.

You said it Jeff! That Lamoureux is a real wesal. One more electon and he gets a MPs pension to go with his MLA's pension. The guy has never had a real job. Its disgusting.

Stockholm wrote:

I think Lamoureux should be the next leader of the Liberal Party. They need to find a new identity and new issues that they can "own". Lamoureux is an ultra-social conservative who opposes a woman'[s right to choose and has ties to the so-called pro-life movement. Since Harper has told the pro-life crowd to get lost - this opens up a fantastic opportunity for the Liberals - they can exploit this vacuum by reinventing themselves (or really going back to their roots) as a party for socially conservative Catholics who have some vague notion of social justice being a good thing.

Go Kevin go!!

ha!......u funy

if this actually happened we might wanna change that new NDP logo approved by kathleen monk:

to "[b]Crush The ConservaLibs[/b]"

but really, i prefer "[b]LibraCons[/b]"

I've noticed in these recounts that typically the vote count doesn't change at all or it might change by a couple of votes out of tens of thousands cast. I think that the only time a recount actually has a chance of overturning anything is if the initial margin is in low single digits.

You know, this is amazing. I was reading a thread on Lamoureau's recount victory, and listening to the Lib gloating, you'd almost think they won the election. It's amazing. These guys lost, and they think nothing has changed. I read the Taber story. WTF? I have never seen anything like this in my life. This is unbelieveable.

You know, I noticed that as well. And what is worse is the Tory candidate took forever to get her campaing underway. My answer is I don't know, but it makes me feel worried about the upcoming provincial election.

This is un-nerving.

I think that Lamoureux wants to be the next Liberal leader.  If he doesn't get it, Rebecca will get the riding next time.

About Manitoba, the NDP have been in power a long time.

hey, they don't call it Saskitoba 4 nuthin

Lamoureux will never  be Libeal leader. That would be like having the batboy hit cleanup. The guy is a "legend in his own mind".

guess that's y the block got annihilated then

SO I open the free newspaper, the Winnipeg Metro, and what do I find? Why its Kevin Lamoureux saying he is going to boycott Esso untill gas is a $1.15 a litre here. And great picture, Lamoureux standing there in front of I assume an Esso giving the "thumbs-down: THIS is the consequence of not voting!

If anyone thinks this guy will be Liberal leader, you are totally delusional. If the Libs pick this guy, people won't stop laughing for a 100 years. GO KEVIN, GO!

*Federal* leader?!?  I suppose if he wants to be a populist fringe maverick standard-bearer; but he wouldn't get any higher than that.  OTOH if he's bidding to be *provincial* leader whenever Jon Gerrard goes, it's probably his for the taking...

@debater:

How about when Lamouruex ran against Pat Martin in WINNIPEG CENTRE? I know from trying to debate with Libs on the Free Press threads that you guys either don't reply, or you tell me "its different".

So, how about it? Or can you dish it out, but not take it?

janfromthebruce wrote:

Debater is "entitled" to his opinion for what it's worth - which is about 18% of the popular opinion of Canadians!

Or 64% of the popular opinion in Winnipeg North

Arthur Cramer wrote:

SO I open the free newspaper, the Winnipeg Metro, and what do I find? Why its Kevin Lamoureux saying he is going to boycott Esso untill gas is a $1.15 a litre here. And great picture, Lamoureux standing there in front of I assume an Esso giving the "thumbs-down: THIS is the consequence of not voting!

I recall Jack Layton also making a big deal about high gas prices throughout the campaign.

Its funny how "debater" (who now runs away from any actual debate) used to pontificate about how he JUST wanted to beat Harper and that he would support any party that would defeat Harper and since the Liberals were the official opposition with twice as many seats as the NDP - that meant supporting Liberals in most places. NOW, the NDP has 103 seats and the Liberals have a piddling 34 - its ABUNDANTLY CLEAR to any sane, rational, objective observer that if you want to defeat the Tories and prevent another Harper term - the NDP is the ONLY game in town - yet suddenly he decides now is the time to show his true colours and shit on the NDP.

It just goes to show that virtually all of these "strategic voting/we just want to stop Harper" types were always just big "L" Liberals who never gave a damn about beating Harper - they just wanted to trick people into voting Liberal.

As far as i'm concerned those people can all go suck an egg!

Stock, that is what these "strategic voting" sites were always about. Simply front groups for Lib shills. The Libs care about one thing only, making you afraid enough to ONLY vote Liberal. The Libs are SOLEY about power. THAT IS ALL.

Arthur, I'm sorry to dispel your illusions but the 2 strategic voting organizations I have been involved with -- federal and provincial -- are definitely NOT front shill groups for Liberals; they are pragmatic, multi-partisan groups trying to stop the Liberals/Greens/NDPers from splitting the vote in certain ridings. (I don't know how many times those of us working in these groups have to defend this fact!)

If you'd ever spoken at length with those of us who work for strategic voting as a temporary measure until PR is enacted (and then all bets are off), you would realize that our groups include members in equal numbers from BOTH the Liberal and ND parties, as well as a representative number of Greens and independents, etc., and that we are all united in our opposition to right wing policies and legislation. 

outwest, I'd like to know how you ever came to think that there was even such a thing as a "progessive" vote in Canada that ever went Liberal? How can the Liberals be considered progressive when in each and every election since 2004 - large chunks of their voters keep shifting to the Conservatives??? In fact, if you believe the mythology - the Conservatives won a majority because so many Liberals decided they liked Stephen Harper better than Jack Layton - and its pretty common knowledge that if the Tories had not won a majority - they would not have sweated for a moment because the Liberals would have come to the rescue and given them carte blanche to govern as if they had a majority just as they have done for the past 5 years. How many times does the Liberal party have to keep whacking you over the head with a two by four for you to see the light? They had a chance to get rid of Harper in Jan. 2009 - but no, no, no, they decided it was more important to keep Harper in power than to form a government where the NDP would have 25 percent of the cabinet.

The Conservatives keep winning elections because too many people are voting Conservative. Maybe if these misguided useful idiots from the strategic voting "movement" would put more time into convincing people NOT to vote Conservative and less time with their smoke mirror SV campaigns and that only serve to confuse people and never seem to deprive the Tories of a single seat - we would not have a Conservative government.

One other thing I would LOVE someone in the strategic voting movement to explain to me is why there was no quality control of any kind on who they "endorsed". Supposedly the point of these sites is to avoid splitting the so-called "progressive vote". So in the riding of Bramalea-Gore-Malton, they were telling people to vote for Liberal incumbent Gurbax Malhi. Malhi is a reactionary extreme social conservative in the Liberal caucus with a 100% homophobic voting record who also opposes abortion right. All the SV sites recommended that people vote for this hateful bigot. Well guess what? He came in THIRD and the NDP candidate who is extremely progressive lost narrowly to the Tory by 400 votes.

At the very least, the people behind catch-22 and project democracy owe us all an explanation and an apology for having endorses homophobic anti-choice freaks and having the false impression that these people were progressive.

Or, come to think of it--let's all concentrate on reducing the Conservative vote.  Which the Liberals and the NDP can do, from their separate spheres.  (Yes, I'm lenient.  I'd rather allow the Liberals to "prove themselves" than to blithely relegate them to the trash heap.  Though they won't do that w/Debater's sour persimmons, cousin.)

Incidentally, I'm still waiting for that one recount seat remaining: Etobicoke Centre...