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Mon, 2018-04-02 19:02

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NDPP

Canada To 'Host' Thousands of Israel's Unwanted African Migrants?

Thousands of Migrants To Be Sent West As Israel Reaches Agreement With UN

https://on.rt.com/92cs

"Speaking last month, Netanyahu insisted that 'a flood of illegal infiltrators from Africa' into Israel would be more damaging to the country than terrorist attacks. Netanyahu said Israel had offered illegal asylum seekers $3,500 and free plane tickets to a 'safe third country' if they voluntarily left the state before April 1.

Speaking about the deal on Monday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that CANADA, Italy and Germany would host at least 16,250 migrants. The agreement nullifies Israel's original plan to forcibly deport the migrants to Africa..."

Why is Israel, an extremely rich and affluent country, once again being facilitated in its racist, white-supremacist, 'Jews Only', Zionist ethnic cleansing project by Canada?

Mon, 2018-04-02 19:09

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Mr. Magoo

It sounds like:

1. Israel could have simply told them to fuck off, but didn't.

2. Canada could also tell them to fuck off, but hasn't.

So... would the best answer be to send them packing? On a scale of "yes" or "no".

Mon, 2018-04-02 20:15

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laine lowe laine lowe's picture

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It looks really bad on Israel in my view. When Eastern European countries pull this shit, the world calls foul, implying racism and lack of compassion and leaves it at that. Here, the western nations jump in to bail out Israel without even a hint of calling the government out for their racist and inhumane actions.

I'm happy that we are helping these people out but I am less impressed with the preferential treatment Israel is getting.

Mon, 2018-04-02 20:21

#4

Mr. Magoo

Which "Eastern European" countries asked Canada to "host" migrants they didn't want? How did Canada respond to their request?

Mon, 2018-04-02 20:51

#5

NDPP

Israel must be forced by the UN, upon pain of sanctions or whatever other means necessary, to abandon their racist, genocidal Zionist colonization project, abide by civilized international standards and norms, and shoulder their rightful international humanitarian obligations to accommodate these people. Not evade them by shipping them back to Africa or on to Canada.

At the very least, especially given the barbaric austerity conditions of Canada's crumbling social safety net, the sky-rocketing prices for ever scarce affordable housing etc, the costs of settling these Africans here should be charged to the wealthy Jewish foundations such as JNF which presently fund-raise hundreds of millions for Israel in Canada for such projects as Sderot's John Baird Memorial Park in honour of IDF 'Cast Lead' war heros.

Mon, 2018-04-02 20:50

(Reply to #5) #6

Unionist

laine lowe wrote:

I'm happy that we are helping these people out but I am less impressed with the preferential treatment Israel is getting.

1. Seems "we" (Canada and others) never heard of this deal, so don't praise us yet.

2. Seems the deal (no clue who were the parties to the "deal") is off anyway.

Israel PM freezes UN deal to send African migrants to Western countries

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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Monday he was putting on hold an agreement with the UN refugee agency to relocate thousands of African migrants to Western countries. [...]

Netanyahu had named Canada, Italy and Germany as some of the nations that would take in the migrants — although those countries appeared not to have been informed of the plan.

Mon, 2018-04-02 21:08

#7

NDPP

From U's CBC link above:

"John Nicolas Beuze at the UNHCR in Ottawa told CBC News that Canada has not made any formal commitment but things are 'being discussed.' Canada has an agreement with us to resettle 10,000 people this year, so we could well imagine that a number of them could come out of Israel.."

Sounds like a plan not yet completed or meant to stay secret has burst leaks and they are scrambling and in damage control mode.

Mon, 2018-04-02 21:31

#8

cco

Israel would seem to be taking a cue from Australia. Why accept refugees when you can pay some other country to accept them?

That said, it seems to me Canada has an opportunity to do a solid here. Offer Israel a one-to-one exchange. For every Palestinian Canadian that Israel resettles as an Israeli citizen inside Israel, Canada will accept an African refugee Israel wants to deport. We could even skip the payoff.

Mon, 2018-04-02 21:53

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Mr. Magoo

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Why accept refugees when you can pay some other country to accept them?

I didn't see that. I saw:

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Netanyahu said Israel had offered illegal asylum seekers $3,500 and free plane tickets to a 'safe third country'

But what's Canada get? CCO?

Mon, 2018-04-02 22:30

NDPP

Netanyahu Suspends Migrant Deal With UN For 'Renewed Examination' (and vid)

https://on.rt.com/92e7

"...Just hours after reaching a deal that would see thousands of African migrants remain in Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu has temporarily suspended the agreement with the UN Refugee Agency, pending talks with those affected.

Netanyahyu's Monday night Facebook post was the third statement the PM made on the migrant issue that day. At an afternoon press conference, Netanyahu praised the UN plan, noting that while an equal number of African migrants will stay in Israel, some 16,250 illegals would be resettled in 'developed' Western countries.

In a follow-up Facebook address, Netanyahu noted that those migrants allowed to stay will be relocated from Tel Aviv to kibbutzim, agricultural villages and other communities. Education Minister Naftali Bennett welcomed the suspension of the agreement as 'this is a bad agreement that constitutes a capitulation to the false campaign that was disseminated in the media and would turn Israel into a paradise for infiltrators, Bennett said.

'The delay is not enough, we have to move to a new plan that will move the illegal infiltrators out of Israel,' Bennett added. At present there are more than 39,000 asylum seekers mainly from Sudan, Ethiopia and Eritrea that live in Israel."

Tue, 2018-04-03 03:20

NDPP

It Took One Press Conference To Expose All of Netanyahu's Asylum Seeker Fables

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/premium-it-took-one-press-conference...

"...The western countries basically gave in to Israel's threats and volunteered on their part to solve the problem for it...When the Interior Minister Arye Deny boasts of this being a special settlement with the UN, he is virtually admitting that Israel's policy was so bad in relation to western democracies that it was impossible not to intervene and save these refugees..."

Alas but never the Palestinians it seems.

Tue, 2018-04-03 04:26

NDPP

The Emmett Till Effect in Israel - by David Sheen

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/emmett-till-effect-israel

"...The vicious violence against non-Jewish African refugees in Israel follows years in which Israeli political leaders and religious officials regularly whipped up racist sentiments against them, accusing them of bringing to Israel deadly diseases, violent crimes, and anti-state terrorism. Official Israeli government statistics have proven all the smears to be baseless. But Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's primary justification for expelling the refugees cannot be so easily dismissed: They should not be able to live in Israel, he claims, because they are not Jews.

The belief that non-Jews have no right to live in the Holy Land has always had some currency among Israeli Jews, but it has become increasingly popular in recent years, with the country's chief rabbi now openly preaching that genocidal doctrine. A poll last month found that two-thirds of Israeli citizens support the government's plan to round up and deport all of the remaining African asylum seekers who now number only about 36,000 - less than 0.5 percent of the population."

Anti-Black Racism Reveals Israel's White Supremacy (and vid)

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/anti-black-racism-reveals-israels-whit...

"We have to make their life miserable so that they voluntarily leave.' Israeli official. Empire Files with Abby Martin.

"Zionists who urged Netanyahu to cancel the deportations, but rushed to praise the UN deal before even reading the fine print, only cared about the 'PR problem' NOT black lives..."

https://twitter.com/davidsheen/status/980938878810054661

Canada Should Welcome More African Migrants From Israel, UN Refugee Agency Says

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-refugee-israel-deportees-1.4602236

"Canada was tapped as a top destination country for African migrants ordered out of Israel under a deal that was struck then abruptly suspended, between Israel and the UN's refugee agency today...Shimon Fogel, CEO of the Toronto-based Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs, said there is an urgent need to increase resources at the Canadian Embassy in Israel to speed up processing to bring more asylum seekers here..."

The left hand washes the right and both wash the face...

Tue, 2018-04-03 07:21

Cody87

The alt-right bangs on about the "Zionist" conspiracy to destroy the west (read: white people) via "forced diversity and migration", the left bangs on about the "Zionist" "white supremacist ethnic cleansing projects", and I'm just stuck here in the middle thinking about horseshoe theory.

Tue, 2018-04-03 10:28

(Reply to #13) #14

voice of the damned

Cody87 wrote:

The alt-right bangs on about the "Zionist" conspiracy to destroy the west (read: white people) via "forced diversity and migration", the left bangs on about the "Zionist" "white supremacist ethnic cleansing projects", and I'm just stuck here in the middle thinking about horseshoe theory.

I think there's a slight overlap, in that both left and right are critical of Israel, but for the most part, I think they're using the terminology to mean different things. Basically, the left uses it to mean the movement founded by Theodor Herzl, lobbying for the creation of a Jewish homeland in Palestine.

The alt-right uses it to mean anything they don't like, under the assumption that it's all part of a Jewish plot. For example...

We have already seen the pro-multicultural policies of the Jewish-controlled BBC, whereby "the full range" of their programmes are constantly to be used as instruments for the promotion of "multiculturalism". The same is true of all the other Jewish-controlled broadcasters in Britain, too. They are all committed in their policies to the intense, systematic promotion of a permanent transformation of Britain into a multiracial, "multicultural" Britain. This uniformity of political purpose finds an important rallying expression in the so-called Cultural Diversity Network, which was launched on October 12, 2000. Its membership comprises the ITV Network Centre, Carlton Communications plc, the Granada plc, the BBC, Channels 4 and 5, BSkyB, ITN, the Independent Television Commission, the Royal Television Society, BAFTA, the Film Council and the Broadcasting Standards Commission; United News and Media and Pearson plc were also members before they were absorbed by Carlton andGranda. In other words, all the Jewish controlled broadcasters in Britain and their associate bodies are aligned to the CDN.

Although Jews have been using their control of the media to transform Britain for decades, the so-called Campaign for Racial Equality stated in April 2001 that: "British TV bosses plan to revolutionize the way new television programmes are developed in the future, putting diversity right at the heart of the creative process." They quoted the Chairman of the CDN as explaining as the purpose of the Network as follows: "Britain is changing. And British television needs to change too. We are becoming an increasingly multiracial, multicultural society. [] The new Commissioning Clause will make diversity one of the standard criteria against which new programme proposals are judged. I fully expect it will change the face of television as we know it." In other words, all of the Jewish-controlled broadcasters in Britain are committed to constantly and systematically using all of their programmes to promote a multiracial, "multicultural" transformation of Britain, against the expressed wishes of the British people. Kosher TV.

Suffice to say that when the left talks about Zionism, we don't usually mean to include things like multiculturalism on British TV shows.

https://tinyurl.com/24aebvc

Tue, 2018-04-03 13:28

Sean in Ottawa

Canada does not see Israel as a source for refugees. A plane from Israel to Canada would land people that would automatically not qualify for refugee status here. An advance agreement -- against Canadian law -- would be required. It woudl be a political bombshell damaging the goodwill to refugee policies here and likely resulting in a Conservative government.

No kidding the deal is off.

Tue, 2018-04-03 13:32

Sean in Ottawa

Here is the safe countries list:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refug...

Tue, 2018-04-03 13:36

Sean in Ottawa

Sorry I should have said -- unlikely qualify rather than automatically not qualify -- things changes since the Harper government. Now there is a chance of qualification -- I understand that the burden of proof is high and that you have to prove that the country you came from is a threat to you. I don't see how this would be the case with a country that just does not want you.

Tue, 2018-04-03 16:46

Mr. Magoo

Just a few notes, based on the CBC story:

1. Are they "refugees", or "migrants"? The UNHCR is involved, but the article continually refers to migrants. Are they all from (say) an African country in the midst of a civil war? If they're not claiming "refugee" status then Canada's refugee rules need not apply.

2. It sounds as though Israel will be settling 21000 of them, and expecting other countries to settle 16000 of them. If that's Israel's way of ensuring racial/religious purity, I think they're losing track of the plot.

3. Evidently, the UN was prepared to cover the cost, so I guess we don't have to demand that "Jewish" organizations here in Canada be forced to bankroll some migrants from Africa. And frankly, what a disgustingly anti-Semitic suggestion. Punishing Canadian Jews for something Israel wants to do is progressive now? That doesn't even slightly make sense.

Tue, 2018-04-03 18:08

Rev Pesky

From that CBC story:

Enbal Singer, founder of Canadians Helping Asylum Seekers in Israel, has been pressing the federal government to remove some of the administrative barriers and take steps to facilitate private refugee sponsorship.

Singer said it will be important to ensure those who remain in Israel under the agreement aren't being ordered out down the road.

"I worry that without international pressure, Israel won't really uphold it's side of any agreement to give people status in Israel," she said.

And that is the problem. Can the government of Israel be believed? I doubt it. In fact this whole teapot tempest seems more like a distraction from the Israeli killing of Palestinians over the last little while.

Tue, 2018-04-03 18:41

NDPP

Is Raising Money For A Right Wing Government Really Charity?

https://yvesengler.com/2018/03/24/is-raising-money-for-a-right-wing-gove...

"Together the United Jewish Appeal/Combined Jewish Appeal...raise over $100 million annually. The largest in the network, UJA Toronto's endowment and planned giving arm has $500 million in assets and planned gifts. CJA Montreal has over $300 million on hand. In a recent letter to the Canadian Jewish News, Morris Sosnovitch asked why UJA Toronto gives a quarter of its budget to a country with a $360-billion national budget. All Canadian taxpayers should ask why tax deductions are given.."

JNF Projects - The John Baird Park in Sderot

http://jnf.ca/index.php/jnf-projects/sderot-memorial-park

"This park will be built in memory of the 66 IDF soldiers who lost their lives during Operation Protective Edge in the summer of 2014." (+2000 Palestinian dead)

The expulsion of Africans by Israel is a Zionist project as is the collaboration by CIJA, Israel and the UN to bring them to Canada instead of forcing Israel to settle them there consistent with their international obligations. The Zionist organizations here who fundraise for Apartheid Israel should be prohibited from doing so, and charged for the costs of the mass transfer contemplated and criminal evasion of Israel's own responsibilities under international law.

Canada's continuing support for the Israeli regime, cover for its crimes and lack of opposition to domestic sources of support and funding, is a particularly dangerous aspect of our foreign policy requiring the same attention and measures as were directed against the South African apartheid regime, not collaboration and complicity in its malevolent continuation such was demonstrated in the shameful suppression of anti-Zionist resistance at the recent NDP convention.

As for the smears, given the obvious intention, history and ignorance of the source, it means nothing at all.

Tue, 2018-04-03 19:04

Mr. Magoo

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In a recent letter to the Canadian Jewish News, Morris Sosnovitch asked why UJA Toronto gives a quarter of its budget to a country with a $360-billion national budget.

Did he also ask how 100 million -- even assuming all of it went straight to the war coffers of the government -- affected anything.

That's about 3 one hundredth of one percent.

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The expulsion of Africans by Israel is a Zionist project as is the collaboration by CIJA, Israel and the UN to bring them to Canada instead of forcing Israel to settle them there consistent with their international obligations.

Ah. This is CIJA's doing?

It's all about Canadian Jews?

Tue, 2018-04-03 19:27

NDPP

No Ban on Stolen Land: Refugees Should Be Welcome in Israel-Palestine

https://t.co/6DT016S0Do

"...The dehumanization and unlawful deportation of African asylum seekers from Israel is not simply a reflection of the particular brand of bald-faced racism of the Netanyahu administration, but rather is the inevitable implication of the Zionist political ambition to establish an exclusive, settler-colonial state in historic Palestine.

Those who have managed to apply for asylum have faced an abysmally low chance of approval. Israel has accepted less than 1 percent of all applicants, the lowest of any country in the OECD.

Justice for African asylum seekers requires that Israeli Jews relinquish their undue privilege to and on the land of historic Palestine and instead commit to a world where all people have equal rights."

Tue, 2018-04-03 20:23

WWWTT

Here’s a good link showing how racist and backwards the Israeli jewish state really is!

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/ethiopian-jews-racist-israel-orthodox-mizrahi-ashkenazi-colonialism-409877638

Wed, 2018-04-04 15:56

NDPP

Israel's Thirst For Arms Has Caused The Displacement of Tens of Thousands of Refugees

https://www.alternet.org/world/israels-thirst-arms-has-caused-displaceme...

Israeli arms help create chaos in South Sudan. This chaos has produced one of the largest refugee migrations - 2 million refugees. A small number of them have braved the journey through Sudan and Egypt into Israel. Israel's arms industry made money in their displacement. Now they are held in prisons or threatened with deportation. The cause produces the effect, which denies the cause."

"Israel, Netanyahu, must be held accountable for illegally eliminating desperate refugees in order to maintain a racist Jewish-only state. Israel is a serial international law offender. Its policies prove life-threatening to refugees. Its reasons are racist. Its methods are lies and deceit. Hold Israel accountable."

https://twitter.com/Refugees4Sale/status/981599364819947521

"NOW in Jerusalem: Over 1.5K protest against Netanyahu abadonment of plan to settle rights asylum-seekers community in Israel."

https://twitter.com/activestills/status/981591716389183488

Wed, 2018-04-04 19:20

Paladin1

Countries should have no say when it comes to people wanting to live there.

Canada should take all these refugees to prove a point.

Wed, 2018-04-04 19:56

Mr. Magoo

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Israel, Netanyahu, must be held accountable for illegally eliminating desperate refugees in order to maintain a racist Jewish-only state.

Again, if they settle more refugees than they expect other countries to, they're pretty much the worst Jewish-only racists ever.

That's "racist" just like a "vegan" picking 40% of the pepperoni off the pizza and eating the other 60%. Duh! Look up "racist" or "vegan" in the dictionary.

Thu, 2018-04-05 03:08

(Reply to #26) #27

voice of the damned

Mr. Magoo wrote:

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Israel, Netanyahu, must be held accountable for illegally eliminating desperate refugees in order to maintain a racist Jewish-only state.

Again, if they settle more refugees than they expect other countries to, they're pretty much the worst Jewish-only racists ever.

That's "racist" just like a "vegan" picking 40% of the pepperoni off the pizza and eating the other 60%. Duh! Look up "racist" or "vegan" in the dictionary.

We could probably say that Netanyahu might be pandering to Israeli racists, who would prefer that there be far fewer brown people in Israel, by accepting fewer refugees than he could. Rather than that he's striving to preserve Israel as a white-only state.

Sort of like the old Reform Party, who advocated reducing, though not eliminating, immigration. A lot of their supporters would probably have wanted to go for the whole enchilada and make Canada 100% whites only, but that wasn't ever going to be a plausible result of the policy.

Thu, 2018-04-05 03:42

NDPP

Bibi Backpedals on African Refugees

https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2018/04/03/bibi-backpedals-on-african...

"...But why did UNHCR offer to pull Israel's irons out of the fire? Why do Israel a favor when it behaves so wretchedly? Why relieve it of a responsibility it has to these refugees under international law? Especially when the Israeli response is to slap you in the face for your trouble?

Indeed, why? And what about you Canada? Why do you continue to collaborate with such obvious evil? Why do you allow your representatives to enter into ever deeper relations with such a vile, racist regime that kills the innocent others so often and so easily so as to steal their lands? 'Mowing the lawn' they call their genocide. And pushes out all who are not chosen. They do this in full view with impunity. While the whole world watches. This ugly thing must end. How can we stay so obscenely silent?

Thu, 2018-04-05 11:39

Sean in Ottawa

In Canada we also have to be fair to other countries (politics aside). Canada is a wealthy country yet it is not the wealthy countries taking the highest numbers of refugees per capita. Yes, Canada is somethign like 5 x the US but less than Israel and less than many other countries who are actually poor. The issue is one in part of geography. Canada settled 4.19/1000 people in 2007-2015. Consider Lebanon at 2008/1000; Sweden at 14.66; Ethiopia at 7.24; Cyprus at 4.99/1000 as a few examples.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_refugee_population

Thu, 2018-04-05 17:21

Mr. Magoo

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This ugly thing must end. How can we stay so obscenely silent?

Until we're settling more refugees than they are, our silence is entirely appropriate.

Thu, 2018-04-05 22:57

(Reply to #30) #31

Noops

Paladin1 wrote:

Countries should have no say when it comes to people wanting to live there.

Canada should take all these refugees to prove a point.

You are over-simplifying and mixing up a couple of issues with your statements (even if you were being sarcastic).
First of all, the issue is not about where people want to live, it's about a country
taking in, using, and then booting out these same people when they are no longer desired.

If a country isn't prepared to let people become citizens of their country, first make it clear that
their stay is temporary and second, boot them back to a country that has AGREED beforehand to take them.

Fri, 2018-04-06 02:23

Rev Pesky

One thing I know is that there are several hundred thousand Palestinian refugees waiting to be allowed to return to their homes.

That is the Israeli refugee problem that should be addressed.

Fri, 2018-04-06 03:58

(Reply to #32) #33

voice of the damned

Rev Pesky wrote:

One thing I know is that there are several hundred thousand Palestinian refugees waiting to be allowed to return to their homes.

That is the Israeli refugee problem that should be addressed.

I've actually been wondering what the Palestinians think about all this. They're already suffering as a result of the ongoing Israeli land grabs, are they really all that fired up about bringing in MORE non-Palestinian residents?

Though I imagine few, if any, of the African newcomers will be moving to the Occupied Territories, the main area of dispute.

Fri, 2018-04-06 06:58

NDPP

Vigilante Violence is how Little #BlackLivesMatter in Israel

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/comment/2018/3/2/a-reminder-of-how-lit...

"In recent weeks mainstream Jewish groups in the US and Canada have finally begun to speak out against the Israeli government's efforts to deport tens of thousands of non-Jewish African refugees from the country and back to the tortures from which they fled.

While the organised American Jewish community's recent outpouring of concern for African refugees in Israel is to be welcomed, it comes at the stroke of midnight, after Netanyahu has already cleansed over a third of the refugee community. What was the reason for their silence until this late hour?

But those just-arriving advocates must also insist that the Israeli government not only tolerate the presence of the refugees, but also roll back its decade-long propaganda campaign against them, and even publicly embrace the community, in order to discourage further racist violence agianst them.

Because as long as Israel's political leaders instead incite racism against the African refugees, there will be Israeli Jews, some racist, some crazy, and some both of those - who will try to maim and murder them, hoping they will all fleee the country in fear..."

Fri, 2018-04-06 16:14

NDPP

Canada To Continue Accepting Africans From Israel, Despite Netanyahu's Flip-Flop

http://www.cjnews.com/news/canada/canada-to-continue-accepting-africans-...

"...Canada was named as one of the Western countries that was ready to accept Africans, but according to Mat Genest, a spokesperson for Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC), this country will continue to accept Africans from Israel. Canada has a separate agreement with Israel, under which it will accept African asylum seekers, he said.

JIASC (Jewish Immigrant Aid Services) Toronto is a sponsorship agreement holder, which permits it to facilitate the immigration of refugees to Canada in situations where private sponsors have been lined up. Canada is working to resettle 1,000 persons as privately sponsored refugees from Israel to Canada in 2018. JIAS has collaborated with CIJA on an action alert requesting the government to expand the capacity of the Canadian embassy in Israel to process the resettlement of more of these asylum seekers in Canada.

Shimon Fogel, CEO of Centre for Israel and Jewish Affairs (CIJA), said that, 'We strongly support (the acceptance of African asylum seekers from Israel) and have been lobbying the federal government and have asked our community to engage through (a CIJA initiated campaign)."

Fri, 2018-04-06 17:55

Rev Pesky

From voice of the damned:

Though I imagine few, if any, of the African newcomers will be moving to the Occupied Territories, the main area of dispute.

Yeah, it's unlikely. As long as the African refugees are in Israel, they are more or less safe from the Israeli authorities.. If they moved to Gaza or the West Bank, they could be killed at will.