Jewish National Fund Rips Off Canadian Taxpayers to Pay IDF

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Jewish National Fund Rips Off Canadian Taxpayers to Pay IDF

Canadian Charity Used Donations to Fund Projects Linked to Israel Military

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jnf-charity-donations-1.4949072

"The Jewish National Fund of Canada, one of the country's long-established charities, has been the subject of a Canada Revenue Agency audit over a complaint that it used charitable donations to build infrastructure for the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) in violation of Canada's tax rules..."

NDPP

"Alleged charity was using money to build infrastructure of terror to murder Palestinians and steal their land..."

https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1081249076925157382

Active Canadian complicity is also part of Israel's 'infrastructure of terror'. For a full boycott of Israel and a shutdown of its fifth column support base here in Canada.

WWWTT

Wouldn’t it be nice to see the Canadian government hold Israel to the same standard it has towards other countries? Like say Iran?

NDPP

Canada's Political Parties Support For Racist Jewish National Fund

https://dissidentvoice.org/2019/01/canadas-political-parties-support-for...

"An explosive CBC expose Friday on the Jewish National Fund should be the beginning of the end for this powerful organization's charitable status. But unless the NDP differentiates itself from the Liberals and Conservatives by standing up for Canadian and international law while simultaneously opposing explicit racism, the JNF may simply ride out this short bout of bad publicity...."

It already has. NDP=No Difference Party

NDPP

CJPME Applauds Scrutiny of Jewish National Fund

http://www.cjpme.org/pr_2019_01_07

"CJPME calls on Canadian politicians to cease support for JNF activities..."

For a full boycott of the Apartheid State of Israel!

 

NDPP

Campaign To Revoke Jewish National Fund Charitable Status IMPORTANT

https://yvesengler.com/2019/01/11/campaign-to-revoke-jewish-national-fun...

"As I have written before, the campaign to revoke the JNF's charitable status is important beyond winning the specific demand. It draws attention to the racism intrinsic to  Zionism and highlights Canada's contribution to Palestinian dispossession. So it's important that people send their MP the CBC expose and add their name to IJV's campaign to revoke the JNF's charitable status."

As well insist your MP, MLA sign on too. If only for the pleasure of watching them squirm and dodge and tremble.

JKR

I agree that the campaign to revoke the JNF’s charitable status draws attention to racism. Specifically it draws attention to antisemitism.

NDPP

Revoke/Audit JNF Charitable Status: A Petition to Parliament

"Encourage folks to sign this petition calling for the revoking of the JNF's charitable status. Canadian organizations shouldn't enjoy charitable status if they support occupation."

https://twitter.com/nikiashton/status/1083800638230855686

NDPP

bumped...

Sign the petition!

JKR

Which Canadian political party could support this petition?

epaulo13

..i signed

 

NDPP

Canada Investigates Jewish National Fund For Funding Israel's Crimes

https://electronicintifada.net/content/canada-investigates-jewish-nation...

"Use of charitable donations to fund foreign militaries contravenes Canadian law. Documents show that the Jewish National Fund has repeatedly used Jewish National Fund Canada as a conduit to collect funds for its illegal projects, activists say.

JNF Canada recently told public broadcaster CBC that it stopped funneling money to the Israeli military in 2016. However, acting as a conduit for its parent organization, funds continue to flow into projects connected to the Israeli military. But the Canadian government, in violation of its own laws, has protected the organization and has consistently ignored or embraced - JNF Canada's role in Israel's violent and discriminatory practices.

Because Canadian politicians across the political spectrum have historically held close ties to JNF Canada, activists will have to work hard to make sure their complaints are taken seriously. ' The formal political mechanisms are so dominated by the advocacy of the JNF,' Rabbi David Mivasair of IJV Canada told the Electronic Intifada..."

 As with the successful global campaign against the  racist Apartheid South African state, serious concerted action is urgently required against the increasingly outrageous abuses of the  racist Apartheid state of Israel. The existing status quo in Canada is a longstanding and unacceptable international disgrace. Prosecution of JNF Canada is a good place to start.

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Prosecution of JNF Canada is a good place to start.

Prosecution

or

persecution?

NDPP

Prosecution. To Stop Canada's collaboration in Israel's Palestinian persecution...

 

Why I No Longer Donate to the Jewish National Fund

https://t.co/eikdbBIy5a

"JNF's history and current activities point to trouble that goes beyond funding infrastructure on army bases, and even beyond funding illegal Jewish settlements. Since the beginning of Israel, the JNF has been involved both in the destruction of Palestinian villages and the building of new Jewish settlements..."

NDPP

Government Revokes Charity Status of Canadian Jewish Group that Supported 'Foreign Armed Forces'

https://globalnews.ca/news/4893430/canada-charity-jewish-group-foreig-ar...

"A Canadian Jewish organization has been stripped of its charity status following a government audit that found it had provided support to 'foreign armed forces' according to documents obtained by Global News. The Beth Oloth Charitable Organization, based in Toronto, had been a registered charity since 1980 and was one of the richest in Canada, with more than $60-million in revenues in 2017.

But federal regulators said some of its activities were not charitable under Canadian law, such as 'increasing the efficiency and effectiveness of the Israel Armed Forces'. The Canada Revenue Agency also identified a list of other problems such as funding projects in the occupied territories, which it said was contrary to Canada's policy on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In the audit documents, the CRA Charities Directorate said the group had not issued tax receipts properly, lacked 'direction and control' over the use of its funds, and had funded non-charitable activity. That included educational programs called mechinot that prepared high school students for Israeli military service. The programs provide weapons training, physical and martial arts training, mentoring by IDF officers and visits to army bases and sites of historical battles, the CRA wrote.

Beth Oloth has received vast donations in recent years - $61 million in 2017, $45 million in 2016 and $45 million in 2015. Almost all its money went abroad. Earlier this month, the CBC reported that a smaller charity The Jewish National Fund was under CRA scrutiny for supplying the Israeli military..."

This is just the tip of the iceberg. For a full and comprehensive public investigation and inquiry into all aspects, influence and activities of the pro- Israel Lobby in Canada. Now. Why are we continuing to permit the furtherance of this institutionalized domestic support for the criminal Apartheid State of Israel?

NDPP

BUMPED 

Ken Burch

JKR wrote:

I agree that the campaign to revoke the JNF’s charitable status draws attention to racism. Specifically it draws attention to antisemitism.

Ah, antisemitism, the horrible prejudice which has nothing to do with the push to revoke the JNF's tax-exempt status, since what people object to JNF doing is its support for aggressive, bigoted right-wing Zionism, an ideology which has nothing to do with and nothing in common with Judaism as a religion or the world's Jewish communities as people.

Ken Burch

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

Prosecution of JNF Canada is a good place to start.

Prosecution

or

persecution?

There is no persecution involved.  The JNF's activities have nothing to do with Judaism, and are a mockery of the historically progressive and universalist values of the Jewish moral tradition.

Nothing being done in Israel has anything to do with Judaism or with protecting and nurturing Jewish people.  It's simply about the persecution and subjugation of Palestinian Arabs, a community which bears no responsibility whatsoever for the 2000+ years of Christian European/British/North American persecution of Jews.  It is no answer to THAT sordid history to crush Palestinians and deny them the right to self-determination.

NDPP

So which community is all those JNF Canada and Beth Oloth millions for Israel coming from?

JKR

NDPP wrote:

So which community is all those JNF Canada and Beth Oloth millions for Israel coming from?

Is that a rhetorical question?

Could it be from the “fifth column” you mentioned up-thread?

JKR

Ken Burch wrote:

JKR wrote:

NDPP wrote:

Prosecution of JNF Canada is a good place to start.

Prosecution

or

persecution?

There is no persecution involved.  The JNF's activities have nothing to do with Judaism, and are a mockery of the historically progressive and universalist values of the Jewish moral tradition.

Nothing being done in Israel has anything to do with Judaism or with protecting and nurturing Jewish people.  It's simply about the persecution and subjugation of Palestinian Arabs, a community which bears no responsibility whatsoever for the 2000+ years of Christian European/British/North American persecution of Jews.  It is no answer to THAT sordid history to crush Palestinians and deny them the right to self-determination.

I think NDPP, the author of this thread, would differ with you.

 

NDPP wrote:

So which community is all those JNF Canada and Beth Oloth millions for Israel coming from?

Ken Burch

I'm fairly sure that by "fifth column", he would have meant anybody who gives unquestioning public support-and there is no difference between public silence and unquestioning support-to what the Israeli government does to Palestinians, such as most right-wing Gentiles-such as the kind of right-wing Gentiles who would have supported the Liberal policy of denying sancturary to Jewish refugees from Hitler back in the Thirties-I seriously doubt that NDPP meant people who happen to be Jewish, a group which are becoming increasingly disillusioned with and critical of what the Israeli government does in the name of "security".

But NDPP would have to answer that himself, to be sure.

Whatever NDPP's personal motivations, is it not a legitimate thing to challenge the JNF's tax-exempt status if the JNF has, in fact, been raising funds for the IDF? As far as that goes, the State of Israel has existed for over seventy years now and it's survival is absolutely assured no matter what, so why does the JNF even need to exist?  "The fight for Israel" is over.  It's won.  There's nothing provisional about it and there's no longer any possibility of there being anything progressive about it.  It's always going to be there and it's always going to be right-wing and militarist based solely on taking land for the sake of taking land and since it's always going to oppose the creation of a Palestinian state it can't ever be in any relationship with the Palestinian people other than that of oppressor.  It's a state that is of no use to the peoples it claims to exist in the name of now.  Israel as a state has turned out to be an utterly futile response to antisemitism and an utter failure at its stated objective of protecting the peoples it purports to empower.

Why even bother raising funds for a state which has now permanently abandoned every ideal it ever embodied?  The kibbutzes have now lost ever vestige of the heroic socialist vision they embodied, social benefits have been slashed to the bone, the unions are mainly irrelevant, the left is essentially unrepresented in the Knesset.  And it is inevitable that the far-right religious parties will grow to such a level of strength in the next two or three elections that even the LGBTQ+ friendly laws will be repealed.

What is it about that state, as currently constitued, that you still feel is necessary?   What hope do you see for anything ever changing in any positive or progressive way?  And why defend it when its leaders are focused on trying to inflict military defeat on the Palestinian side, even though military defeat as we might know it in the West doesn't ever actually happen in that part of the world and all a defeat of one faction on the battlefield can ever achieve is the creation of a more violent, more extreme armed faction pledged to avenge the defeat?

 

 

 

NDPP

Stop the JNF

http://www.stopthejnf.ca

"End tax breaks for colonization. Sign the e-petition."

My question was a simple one that remains unanswered. Who is funding the JFN and Beth Oloth with multi-millions for Apartheid Israel to murder Palestinians? How can this serious and substantial base of support be prevented from further aiding and abetting this criminal regime?

Ken Burch

NDPP:  Please don't use terms like "fifth column" in discussing the Israel/Palestine dispute: 

There is no way to frame the Israel/Palestine question as a "dual loyalty" question without shading into outright antisemitism.  If you shade into outright antisemitism, if you insist on framing it as blaming the Jews, as your use of the term "fifth column" can be taken to be doing, you are actually giving aid and comfort to the hasbara crowd and Netanyahu.  You are allowing the Israeli government to distort the discussion into "See?  See?  It's not about us, it's about YOU-we're the only ones who are on your side and you have to 'circle the wagons' and defend everything we do just to survive.  If we don't get to crush the Palestinians, you are doomed!" 

In reality, a larger and larger number of Jewish people around the world, and especially in North America, are questioning and denouncing what Netanyahu does.  They are turning against the Occupation and the settlements and the whole thing. 

The JNF donors represent a rapidly shrinking faction.

Using terms like "fifth column" gives those who are trying to suppress the process of psychic freeing much greater ease in doing so, gives them a pretext to slander those dissenting voices as "self-loathing".  If you truly want to support justice for the people of Palestine, reconsider that rhetoric, please.  

JKR

Ken Burch wrote:

I'm fairly sure that by "fifth column", he would have meant anybody who gives unquestioning public support-and there is no difference between public silence and unquestioning support-to what the Israeli government does to Palestinians, such as most right-wing Gentiles-such as the kind of right-wing Gentiles who would have supported the Liberal policy of denying sancturary to Jewish refugees from Hitler back in the Thirties-I seriously doubt that NDPP meant people who happen to be Jewish, a group which are becoming increasingly disillusioned with and critical of what the Israeli government does in the name of "security".

But NDPP would have to answer that himself, to be sure.

Whatever NDPP's personal motivations, is it not a legitimate thing to challenge the JNF's tax-exempt status if the JNF has, in fact, been raising funds for the IDF? As far as that goes, the State of Israel has existed for over seventy years now and it's survival is absolutely assured no matter what, so why does the JNF even need to exist?  "The fight for Israel" is over.  It's won.  There's nothing provisional about it and there's no longer any possibility of there being anything progressive about it.  It's always going to be there and it's always going to be right-wing and militarist based solely on taking land for the sake of taking land and since it's always going to oppose the creation of a Palestinian state it can't ever be in any relationship with the Palestinian people other than that of oppressor.  It's a state that is of no use to the peoples it claims to exist in the name of now.  Israel as a state has turned out to be an utterly futile response to antisemitism and an utter failure at its stated objective of protecting the peoples it purports to empower.

Why even bother raising funds for a state which has now permanently abandoned every ideal it ever embodied?  The kibbutzes have now lost ever vestige of the heroic socialist vision they embodied, social benefits have been slashed to the bone, the unions are mainly irrelevant, the left is essentially unrepresented in the Knesset.  And it is inevitable that the far-right religious parties will grow to such a level of strength in the next two or three elections that even the LGBTQ+ friendly laws will be repealed.

What is it about that state, as currently constitued, that you still feel is necessary?   What hope do you see for anything ever changing in any positive or progressive way?  And why defend it when its leaders are focused on trying to inflict military defeat on the Palestinian side, even though military defeat as we might know it in the West doesn't ever actually happen in that part of the world and all a defeat of one faction on the battlefield can ever achieve is the creation of a more violent, more extreme armed faction pledged to avenge the defeat?

I think it’s for the Jewish people to decide whether Israel is of benefit to them. I think most Jewish people feel that the existence of the State of Israel is a good thing. Personally I support a two state solution where Israelis, Palestinians, Arabs, Jews, Muslims, Christians, and all others, can all live in peace in the Middle East.

Ken Burch

JKR wrote:

Ken Burch wrote:

I'm fairly sure that by "fifth column", he would have meant anybody who gives unquestioning public support-and there is no difference between public silence and unquestioning support-to what the Israeli government does to Palestinians, such as most right-wing Gentiles-such as the kind of right-wing Gentiles who would have supported the Liberal policy of denying sancturary to Jewish refugees from Hitler back in the Thirties-I seriously doubt that NDPP meant people who happen to be Jewish, a group which are becoming increasingly disillusioned with and critical of what the Israeli government does in the name of "security".

But NDPP would have to answer that himself, to be sure.

Whatever NDPP's personal motivations, is it not a legitimate thing to challenge the JNF's tax-exempt status if the JNF has, in fact, been raising funds for the IDF? As far as that goes, the State of Israel has existed for over seventy years now and it's survival is absolutely assured no matter what, so why does the JNF even need to exist?  "The fight for Israel" is over.  It's won.  There's nothing provisional about it and there's no longer any possibility of there being anything progressive about it.  It's always going to be there and it's always going to be right-wing and militarist based solely on taking land for the sake of taking land and since it's always going to oppose the creation of a Palestinian state it can't ever be in any relationship with the Palestinian people other than that of oppressor.  It's a state that is of no use to the peoples it claims to exist in the name of now.  Israel as a state has turned out to be an utterly futile response to antisemitism and an utter failure at its stated objective of protecting the peoples it purports to empower.

Why even bother raising funds for a state which has now permanently abandoned every ideal it ever embodied?  The kibbutzes have now lost ever vestige of the heroic socialist vision they embodied, social benefits have been slashed to the bone, the unions are mainly irrelevant, the left is essentially unrepresented in the Knesset.  And it is inevitable that the far-right religious parties will grow to such a level of strength in the next two or three elections that even the LGBTQ+ friendly laws will be repealed.

What is it about that state, as currently constitued, that you still feel is necessary?   What hope do you see for anything ever changing in any positive or progressive way?  And why defend it when its leaders are focused on trying to inflict military defeat on the Palestinian side, even though military defeat as we might know it in the West doesn't ever actually happen in that part of the world and all a defeat of one faction on the battlefield can ever achieve is the creation of a more violent, more extreme armed faction pledged to avenge the defeat?

 

 

 

I think it’s for the Jewish people to decide whether Israel is of benefit to them. I think most Jewish people feel that the existence of the State of Israel is a good thing. Personally I support a two state solution where Israelis, Palestinians, Jews, Arabs, Christians, and others, can all live in peace in the Middle East.

My personal preference has been for a two-state model, but the fact is that the Israeli government, with all the land it has permanently seized, has pretty much made that impossible.  There isn't enough land remaining to form a viable Palestinian state, and the land available is not contiguous, which is important because a state cannot survive if most of its territory is not contiguous.

I agree that people who are Jewish need to have safety and security in this world, as does everybody else.  But so to the Palestinian people.

And the problem is, the current situation does not affect "the Jewish people" and no one else-the current situation also does nothing to protect that people from any physical danger of any sort at all.  The situtation also affects, and does nothing but harm to, the Palestinian people, by depriving them of any hope-and I think you'd have to concede that Netanyahu's actions, since no Israeli government is ever going to reverse any of them and especially not ever give back any significant percentage of the lands 

And I think that it's presumptuous to assume that there is a consensus among the world's Jewish communities in support of the idea that the Israeli government must be given special deference to do whatever it wishes to do to Palestinians in the name of "self-defense", or that that government must be given MOST of the say on what happens in this situation.  Clearly, the Israeli government is not interested in peace-it's not possible to support the objective of peace WHILE expanding the illegal settlements, continuing the IDF occupation of the West Bank, and continuing the brutal siege imposed on Gaza-and clearly that government is not acting, any longer, in the interests of anything other than the ugliest, most arrogant and vindictive interpretation of the goals of the nationalist movement which created the states.

The most charitable interpretation of Netanyahu's actions is the idea that he thinks that somehow, peace can be achieved through military victory over Hamas and Fatah.  

The problem with that is that, in that region of the world, the concepts of military victory and military defeat no longer exist.  Therefore, if Hamas and Fatah were to be militarily defeated, the only thing that could possibly come of those "defeats" would be the emergence of a new, more violent, more rigidly uncompromising resistance which would fight to avenge the defeats-and at that point, everyone would be right back where they started, only worse.

It is not reasonable in any sense to argue that no one outside of the world's Jewish communities has any right to have an opinion on the Israel/Palestine issue, or to equate all dissent from people outside those communities on the I/P issue with antisemtism.  It is also not reasonable to call those in the world's Jewish communities who oppose Netanyahu's actions, whether Zionist or non-Zionist "self-loathing" or "kapos"(as many have been calle,d) simply because they dissent from the Likud/Revisionist "line" and recognize the humanity of the Palestinian people.

It is not reasonable to equate all, or even most Palestinian resistance with antisemitism.  It goes without saying that Palestinians would resist, with equal passion, ANY regime anywhere that treated them as the Israeli government and the IDF treat them.  

Israel is simply a country.  It is not a synonym for Judaism, or for the world's Jewish communities. Benjamin Netanyahu is simply the leader of the government of that country. He is not the leader of global Judaism, and there's no reason to think that he or his ministers truly care about the survival of people in those communities.  He cares only about crushing the Palestinians into the dirt and about trying to pressure everybody on the planet into accepting the idea that all of us are obligated to support him in the crushing.

All people of good will have a right to have an opinion about the defensibility of any or all of the above.

 

JKR

I agree that the viewpoints from all sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict should be heard and taken into account in reaching an amicable compromise. I think that has not happened because people from all sides of the conflict have not wanted to compromise. I think too many people on all sides of the conflict want to establish a one-state solution where their side permanently rules the other side. I think as long as that continues, the conflict will basically remain as it has for over the last fifty years.

NDPP

Israel Bonds/Canada-Israel Securities Ltd

https://jewishtoronto.com/directory/israel-bondscanada-israel-securities...

 

What your Investment Supports

https://twitter.com/AyaIsleemEn/status/1094164930910216192

No wonder business is booming!

NDPP

"Pro-Apartheid CIJA lobbyists met 165 times with 208 Canadian parliamentarians and bureaucrats from January to November 2018. That's an average of 2 contacts per day that Parliament sat. This doesn't include CIJA's lobbying of provinces or municipalities."

https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1098056802267291648

Just keep ignoring these 'difficult' realities and implications Canada...

NDPP

UN Council: Israel Intentionally Shot Children and Journalists in Gaza

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/un-council-israel-intentionally-shot-...

Report of the UN Commission of Inquiry on the 2018 Gaza Protests:

"The commission said it 'recommends that states that are parties to the Geneva Conventions and/or to the Rome Statute [Canada] carry out their duty to exercise criminal jurisdiction and arrest persons alleged to have committed the international crimes described in the present report and either to try or to extradite them...  To View Full  Report Click Here."

Of course it's all just anti-semitism and Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and you nice Canadians should continue to support it in every way you can. If there was anything to this trash-talking by the UN your elected representatives would say something, right? Especially since so many of them have enjoyed nice trips to Israel at Israel's expense, and so have seen the situation close up. Keep purchasing those Israel Bonds, keep voting in pro-Zionist MPs in the party of your choice, keep fundraising millions for JNF, CIJA FOSWC and other Israel-friendly charities, 'Walk With Israel' and be sure and write a nice fat cheque to billionaire Stephen Bronfman, Chief Liberal Party fundraiser, so that PM JT that true friend of Israel can keep doing God's work for Eretz Israel. Mazel Tov!

JKR

Mazel Tov!

NDPP

Toda!

JKR

Bevakasha!

NDPP

Ein bead ma!

JKR

L'Shana Haba'ah B'Yerushalayim!

NDPP

Bon Voyage!

JKR

Bon voyage to you new titanic
you're the greatest ship on the sea
Bon voyage to you new titanic
say hello to the Statue of Liberty!

NDPP

Hedges: Israel's Stranglehold on [North] American Politics

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/israels-stranglehold-on-american-polit...

"The Israel lobby's buying off of nearly every senior politician in the United States facilitated by our system of legalized bribery, is not an anti-Semitic trope. It is a fact. The lobby's campaign of vicious character assassination, smearing  and blacklisting against those who defend Palestinian rights - including the Jewish historian Norman Finkelstein and university students, many of them Jewish, in organizations such as Students for Justice in Palestine - is not an anti-Semitic trope. It is a fact..."

"The University of Toronto should publicly denounce Norman Finkelstein and his bigotry. The administration should highlight that his values stand in stark contrast to the principles U of T aims to defend and promote on campus."
https://twitter.com/CIJAinfo/status/1103044621901299712

Proud to Stand Against the Rise of Anti-Semitism Alongside My Friends At AIPAC

https://twitter.com/CIJAinfo/status/1103468337051328514

"We thank you for your  continued support for Israel and your consistent opposition to antisemitism in all its forms. - CIJA"

Imagine if Apartheid South Africa had won. Imagine if its influence over your politics meant your politicians now passed laws to further South African interests and outlaw its criticism. Imagine if millions of dollars were fundraised for  South African Apartheid causes, spread its Apartheid ideology and to attack, smear and destroy its opponents as 'antiapartheites'. Imagine if you remained silent and allowed this to continue...

NDPP
NDPP

Bought your Israel bonds yet? Contributed to JNF? Remember bombing Gazans to death doesn't come cheap. Thanks Canada!

"This is what Gaza looks like tonight due to Israeli massive airstrike..."

https://twitter.com/MohammedBaroud9/status/1110244364100485120

NDPP

"Liberal MP Michael Levitt is 'immensely proud' and moved to tears to see the flag of Israel - a state whose soldiers murder children, medics and journalists - flying over Parliament Hill. Canadians should be outraged by this travesty."

https://twitter.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1112810068754485249

Michael Levitt is an MP for Israel. Why is such a thing permitted? Apartheid Israel's power and influence has no place in our parliament and must be removed from our  politics. Stop  funding and supporting Israel or any politician that does. DON'T Walk With Israel!

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Michael Levitt is an MP for Israel. Why is such a thing permitted? Apartheid Israel's power and influence has no place in our parliament and must be removed from our  politics. Stop  funding and supporting Israel or any politician that does. DON'T Walk With Israel!

Michael Levitt is a Canadian MP and saying he an Israeli MP sounds anti-Semitic to me.

NDPP

Anything critical of Israel sounds anti-Semitic to you JKR. Why is that? Are you an Israeli?  If Levitt and Housefather want to advocate for Israel let them run for the Knesset. If they were advocating for Russia as frequently as they do for Apartheid Israel, I'm sure you'd get it. 

JKR

If a Canadian MP took positions that coincided and supported the positions taken by Russia, I would not say they were really a member of the Russian State Duma, I would say they are a Canadian MP who is loyal to Canada. It doesn’t take a history degree to see how over the millennia Jewish people living in Christian and Muslim majority countries have frequently been accused of not being loyal citizens to their own countries and then been persecuted. Levitt and Housefeather are completely legitimate members of the House of Commons.

NDPP

Active members of the Israel lobby, advocating for the interests of Apartheid Israel and its furtherance are a clear and present danger to our country and should be anathema to any progressive person, Jewish or otherwise. And is so to many. Its continued support and funding sources here must be identified and destroyed in the same way that Apartheid South African support was. 

JKR

Why is there support for Israel?

NDPP

Lots of free trips for MPs to Israel and being slurred as anti-semites if they protest Zionist policies. Also a belief in mythical nonsense such as discussed below:

Tom Friedman's Belief in an 'Ancestral Homeland' is a Toxic Myth...

https://twitter.com/Mondoweiss/status/1108805661742321664

"Memo to Tom Friedman: Israel is not your ancestral homeland, that is a Zionist myth...Mythical Jewish history doesn't convey rights to someone born in Minnesota."

Or Canada.

iyraste1313

open to correction...but the jews of greater Israel mostly converted to muslim during the era of arab conquest of the 7th/8th century...that is the Palestinian, and that the Khazarian jews are the Ashkenazy that hold power presently in Israel

voice of the damned

iyraste1313 wrote:

open to correction...but the jews of greater Israel mostly converted to muslim during the era of arab conquest of the 7th/8th century...that is the Palestinian, and that the Khazarian jews are the Ashkenazy that hold power presently in Israel

I don't think that 13th Tribe theory is universally accepted as fact, and I seem to recall reading somewhere recently that DNA has largely discredited it. In any case, you don't need the theory to criticize the idea that people whose ancestors haven't lived in the middle east for millenia have the right to just move there and live on someone else's land.  

JKR

NDPP wrote:

Lots of free trips for MPs to Israel and being slurred as anti-semites if they protest Zionist policies. Also a belief in mythical nonsense such as discussed below:

Tom Friedman's Belief in an 'Ancestral Homeland' is a Toxic Myth...

https://twitter.com/Mondoweiss/status/1108805661742321664

"Memo to Tom Friedman: Israel is not your ancestral homeland, that is a Zionist myth...Mythical Jewish history doesn't convey rights to someone born in Minnesota."

Or Canada.

What should be done now that the State of Israel exists de jure and defacto in the 21st Century?

NDPP

Same thing that was done with Apartheid South Africa. 

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