The Very Real Possibility of President Elizabeth Warren

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The Very Real Possibility of President Elizabeth Warren

Can she beat Trump? There’s a plan for that

 

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Jamil Smith

 

 

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Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass speaks during a town hall campaign event in Los AngelesElection 2020 Warren, Los Angeles, USA - 21 Aug 2019Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass speaks during a town hall campaign event in Los Angeles Election 2020 Warren, Los Angeles, USA - 21 Aug 2019

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Not too many campaign websites first ask visitors if they are unsure about the candidate in question. But if you click the “I’m not sure yet” button on the ElizabethWarren.com launch page, you can enter your email before answering the question “What’s holding you back?” one of three ways. Two replies are typical for 160-some days before the Iowa caucuses: “I’m not ready to make a decision” and “I have questions about Elizabeth’s policy positions.”

It’s the one between those, though, that most captures the zeitgeist of the still-young primary contest for the Democratic presidential nomination: “I’m not sure Elizabeth can win."

A few thousand people who disagreed with that sentiment piled into the Shrine Expo Hall on the University of Southern California’s campus early Wednesday evening. A good hour before Warren’s town hall began with a raffle to determine who would get to ask her questions later that night, the faint odor of spilt, fermented beer wafted through the lower level, stage left — likely some resilient residue from an earlier event. The smell itself didn’t fit the early-evening, family vibe of the Massachusetts Senator’s supporters, and frankly, they hadn’t been there long enough for it to smell like a post-victory celebration locker room. But the spirit it conveyed was a perfect match: Most everyone there to see Elizabeth Warren was as giddy as if the title were in sight.

There was, however, that damned specter of “electability” also was wafting through the room. It was much less odorous but no less repugnant. This phantom is conjured in virtually all discussions about the Democratic primary contest, derived largely from archetypes of older white men whom Americans are more accustomed to seeing run for office and therefore electing. It smothers critical thinking about the presidential race so much that it appears that many are convinced that “electability” is indeed a living, breathing thing when it is in fact an apparition, a hasty creation of the party elites and pundit classes that serves as a convenient substitute for the vetting that desperately needs to occur before a nominee goes up against President Trump next fall. Even though more than 160 days remain between now and the first Iowa caucus, this unanswerable question lingers more prominently than do major quandaries about candidate qualifications. 

 

 

To the extent polls matter at this point, Warren remains within mere percentage points of frontrunner Joe Biden, despite her constant stream of detailed policy plans seeming to go against the conventional wisdom that Democrats need to focus only on beating Trump to win the nomination. Yes, this can happen for her.  

2020 Democratic Presidential hopeful Senator Elizabeth Warren hosts a town hall at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, California on August 21, 2019. (Photo by FREDERIC J. BROWN / AFP) (Photo credit should read FREDERIC J. BROWN/AFP/Getty Images)

2020 Democratic Presidential hopeful Senator Elizabeth Warren hosts a town hall at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles, California on August 21, 2019. (Photo by FREDERIC J. BROWN / AFP/Getty Images)

“California, who’s ready for some big, structural change in Washington?” Elizabeth Warren opens her rally as perhaps only she could. Though she is actually more populist than policy wonk, the former law professor has a reputation for detail that is virtually unmatched in the Democratic field, especially now that climate-crisis crusader Jay Inslee is on MSNBC dropping out of the race as Warren walks about the stage speaking. 

Warren communicates as much with her body language as with her words. Making a few jokes that land early, she exhibits a disarming manner — “Let me tell you a little bit about myself,” she says, before going into her family history and her college career, her limbs getting looser as she breaks down her points. Her voice is invigorating all the way through, and even as she is breaking down a topic to its bones, it doesn’t feel like only rah-rah fodder for the NPR crowd. This is a fairly multiracial group who clearly gives a shit about whether they get a president who can do the job after winning the election, and she is respecting their intelligence.

Like any good teacher, Warren’s body language shifts when it is time to state her central thesis. Her arms and legs stiffen as she hones in. 

“When you see a government that works great with those with money, for those who can hire armies of lobbyists and lawyers and is not working so great for everyone else, that is corruption, pure and simple,” Warren said to big cheers. “The corruption of money that flows through Washington,” she added, ties into every topic that keeps Democrats up at night: gun safety, health care, immigration, criminal justice. “Whatever is the issue, if there is a decision to be made in Washington, I guarantee it’s been influenced by money.”

 

 

Then she comes with a good pitch, not just for this audience but for the campaign itself. “I have the biggest anti-corruption plan since Watergate,” Warren says. “Here’s the bad news. We need the biggest anti-corruption plan since Watergate.”

It’s a smarter sell than just “I can beat Trump,” if only because after a week featuring the especially erratic behavior of the president, it seems like anyone in the field should be able to. In fact, the early polling bears that out, and Trump’s approval ceiling continues to hold tight. And considering the financial shenanigans of the current occupant of the White House, involving taxpayer-funded vacations to his own properties and possible emoluments clause violations, there is plenty of cause for corruption to be at the forefront of voters’ minds when they go to the polls in the primary and in the general election.

 Democratic Presidential candidate Senator for Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren (C) embraces a child after speaking i a town hall meeting at Shrine Auditorium on August 21, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. California will join the Super Tuesday primaries on March 3, 2020. (Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images)

LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA – AUGUST 21: Democratic Presidential candidate Senator for Massachusetts Elizabeth Warren (C) embraces a child after speaking in a town hall meeting at Shrine Auditorium on August 21, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. California will join the Super Tuesday primaries on March 3, 2020. (Photo by Mario Tama/Getty Images)

But even more to Warren’s benefit, she is making an argument for her electability rather than contending that the argument for said electability has already been settled. That appears to be the position of the Biden camp, including that of his own spouse, Dr. Jill Biden, who recently urged voters to ignore the qualifications of other candidates in favor of her husband’s alleged, ethereal “electability” (which has been proven, of course, by all the times he has been president). 

Warren is hardly the only top-tier candidate making an affirmative case for the presidency. But she can have the most success at it by combining her unparalleled ability (thus far) to produce and be conversant with policy plans to then use them as her best argument that she is the best candidate to take on Trump.

Truly, that last part is what we all should be busying ourselves with at the moment. I mean, have you been paying attention to the past week? The time to be vetting candidates is now more than ever. Forget this rubbish about “Democrats don’t criticize our own candidates.” The last thing that the left should be doing is rush to push just one person to the front of the line without putting that person through the fire to ensure that he or she is the strongest possible candidate. 

 

 

The Democrats won’t win the general election on the off chance that thousands of voters will mistake one elderly white man for the other. As Jemele Hill wrote in The Atlantic in June, “Biden’s elevation to front-runner is a testament to how much President Donald Trump has shaken the faith of those who believe the White House could better reflect what America looked like,” adding “the lesson even Democrats have learned from Trump’s election is that certain voters are willing to tolerate anything if they believe in a candidate. Especially if that candidate is an older white man.”

This is the pathology against which Warren is working. Nevertheless, she persists. And to a significant extent, it is working. Not only is she not going away, but, in a campaign that completely eschews corporate money and trades glad-handing bigwigs for selfie lines that lap arenas, she is gaining. That’s why it was impossible to stand inside the Shrine Expo Hall Wednesday and not detect the return of a sense of possibility that once felt lost. 

If it isn’t Warren, then we need someone who might actually inspire voters to show up, knock on doors, and then vote. We already have proof that having Trump on the ballot isn’t enough to not only prevent Americans from showing up to vote for him, but also isn’t enough to get other Americans to show up to vote against him.

Allow me to continue playing pessimist for a moment. As much as Warren is making progress, her stump speech still paints in very broad strokes. Without ever mentioning the need for the Senate to junk the filibuster to accomplish her lofty goals, she spoke to the Los Angeles crowd about her $.02 wealth tax on those making more than $50 million annually. She spoke of Constitutional Amendments to great applause without noting that we are still waiting for enough states to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment, just to guarantee uniform gender rights. With the Voting Rights Act neutered by the Roberts Court, Republican states will be very unlikely to help reverse their ongoing efforts to suppress minority votes.

 

 

What can she do? It may sound counter-intuitive to the “just beat Trump” folks, but they should hold on a second. 

First, Warren should actually release even more plans — but she do what she did earlier this week: tailor them more narrowly. When the Massachusetts Senator earlier this week released her policy agenda for Indigenous Americans — co-authored with Rep. Deb Haaland of New Mexico, one of the first two Indigenous women to be elected to Congress — that wasn’t just some Bill tacked onto an apology for that unfortunate DNA test reveal. The policy targeting those communities was just as overdue as the apology. 

So now that Warren has big new gun safety plans and several sub-proposals under her “economic patriotism” umbrella, it would be good for her to micro-target — particularly to earn the level of African American support she’ll need to overtake Biden. A lead-exposure policy to compare to Julián Castro’s proposal, perhaps. A specific plan addressing right-wing extremism — not from the standpoint of guns, perhaps, but from de-radicalization. How do we deal with the crisis of masculinity that is feeding white supremacy like an intravenous drip?

And lastly, she should release a Plan to Defeat Donald Trump, which sounds broader than it would be. Winning a general election over a charlatan who gets help from the Russians and uses Republican voter suppression to cheat is no easy calculus to lay out on paper, and that isn’t what I’m talking about. There are known knowns with Trump, so to speak, and Warren should let voters know now that she has a plan to deal with Trump’s unerring ability to swerve the election coverage into meaningless drivel, the type of drivel that takes voter attention away from precisely the kind of substance she offers in her plans. 

If she really does “have a plan for that,” meaning every policy idea under the sun, will it matter if Trump will have the evening cable shows talking about how he wants to annex Patagonia and Madagascar and trade them for Long Island? (Well, maybe not; Queens is on that and he’d be making himself an immigrant after the fact.)

 

 

The notion that electing Warren is impossible feels ludicrous, especially when you feel the energy at one of her rallies. But it is incumbent, pardon the term, upon her to prove that to voters. She noted during the Q&A how much the federal courts are tilting pro-corporate under Republican rule, exponentially so under Trump. Would other candidates have a similar commitment to reversing that trend? Do others have specific plans addressing how to stem the murders of trans women, particularly those of color? She has to not just put out good policy, but use it to differentiate herself from the dwindling slate of Democrats. 

And she told a young man who asked her, worried about what to tell friends who say that Big Business won’t let Warren become president, “If we don’t get in the fight, that’s exactly what’s going to happen.”

 

 

 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/president-elizabeth-warren-possibility-875817/

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Aristotleded24

President Elizabeth Warren? That's a laugh. She's an opportunist and a coward who has never stuck her neck out for anything. She's also prone to doing dumb publicity stunts. Anyone remember when she did that blood test that "proved" she was part Native American? Why don't you ask the Native Americans at Standing Rock what they think of her?

josh

She's an opportunist and a coward who has never stuck her neck out for anything.

And the basis for saying that?

Aristotleded24

josh wrote:
She's an opportunist and a coward who has never stuck her neck out for anything.

And the basis for saying that?

The fact that she didn't endorse Bernie in the 2016 primary, even though the public policy vision she is outlining in this campaign is more in line with what he proposed back then than what Clinton did. She stayed silent while the Water Protectors at Standing Rock were fighting against the pipeline and to protect their homeland, and while security forces turned violent on them. But falling for a trap that Trump set for here and having a blood test to show she is Native American? What difference does that make if she won't stand up for them when it counts? Trump called her out on that and he has a meme on that that will win. Sure what she's saying now sounds progressive. Those ideas had already entered the mainstream long ago. Has she ever fought for ideas like single payer health care or environmental protection or financial regulation before these ideas became popular?

josh

She has been in the forefront of fighting financial deregulation since the 1990s.  And warned it would lead to the financial collapse that took place in’08.

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Aristotleded24

josh wrote:
She has been in the forefront of fighting financial deregulation since the 1990s.  And warned it would lead to the financial collapse that took place in’08.

I'll give her that. I stand by the rest of my assessment.

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She's my choice!

NDPP

Is Warren Talented Enough To Betray the People as Masterfully as Obama?

https://www.blackagendareport.com/warren-talented-enough-betray-people-m...

"...I have little doubt that Warren, who was a Republican until middle-aged, is capable of jettisoning Sanders' and much of her own campaign promises to get party honchos' nod for the nomination. But, despite the Democratic Party's institutional interest in winning elections, it remains a bought-and-paid-for instrument of the corporate ruling class, whose pocketbooks are paramount. The Lords of Capital would rather the Democrats lose yet again to the unpredictable Trump, then win with Sanders or any other candidate that would seriously challenge the prevailing order: endless austerity and war..."

pookie

I too thought that Warren would be toast against Trump b/c of the easy meme and rifs on Pocahontas.

I am no longer at all convinced that trick will work.  Trump's put-downs have lost alot of their oomph by dint of sheer repetition.  If he were able to debut it, maybe, but this has been a thing for 3 years.    

That doesn't mean I think Warren can win.  For many Americans, the fact that she is a middle-aged blonde woman will be too much deja vu.  And I am not sure of her ability to connect with minorities.

Paladin1

pookie wrote:

 And I am not sure of her ability to connect with minorities.

 

Well she has Native American ancestry so that's something.

kropotkin1951

Paladin1 wrote:

pookie wrote:

 And I am not sure of her ability to connect with minorities.

 

Well she has Native American ancestry so that's something.

Dry.

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After 2 debates Warren’s on a roll and my choice for President

Because she is one of the only ones not beholden to the big banks

Warren knows all about class war and the rich 1% against the poor

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-two-debates-warren-is-getting-more-popular/amp/

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A Biden - Warren showdown

Warren's a woman, educated, prepared to take on the banks and has the key ingredient to fight Trump, her basic honesty. What's not to like!

How Much Of A Threat Is Elizabeth Warren To Joe Biden’s Front-Runner Status?

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-of-a-threat-is-warren-to-bidens-front-runner-status/

 

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NorthReport wrote:

After 2 debates Warren’s on a roll and my choice for President

Because she is one of the only ones not beholden to the big banks

Warren knows all about class war and the rich 1% against the poor

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/after-two-debates-warren-is-getting-more-popular/amp/

There’s this guy named Sanders you appear to be overlooking.

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Not at all, but for one thing are Democrats really going to choose a leader who is not a Democrat?

cco

Why not? They've been choosing Republicans for 43 years.

Aristotleded24

cco wrote:
Why not? They've been choosing Republicans for 43 years.

Which Liz Warren (and Hillary Clinton, for that matter) used to be.

NorthReport

If Warren did win the Democratic nomination who would be her ideal running mate? Ideal as in getting elected. Joe Biden?

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kropotkin1951

NorthReport wrote:

If Warren did win the Democratic nomination who would be her ideal running mate? Ideal as in getting elected. Joe Biden?

You are a Trump supporter. That would hand him his second term.

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Warren did not intentionally set out to deceive, but we shall see. 

Can Elizabeth Warren turn a supposed weakness into a strength?

American voters are ready for a little humility and honesty — instead of a racist attack and faux outrage

https://www.salon.com/2019/09/06/can-warren-turn-a-supposed-weakness-into-a-strength_partner/

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Elizabeth Warren Is Doing to the Pentagon What She Did to Wall Street

And defense lobbyists are not liking it any more than the bankers did.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/09/elizabeth-warren-is-doing-to-the-pentagon-what-she-did-to-wall-street/

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GOP STRATEGISTS FEAR TRUMP’S “POCAHONTAS” THING ISN’T WORKING

Elizabeth Warren turns out to be more resilient than expected.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/09/gop-strategists-fear-elizabeth-warren

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Elizabeth Warren Has Been in Touch With [Crooked] Hillary Clinton Behind the Scenes of the 2020 Race

https://twitter.com/caitoz/status/1170845138760765440

"The billionaire media are boosting Warren and they aren't just doing so to split Sanders votes; They're doing it because they know she poses no threat whatsoever to the status quo."

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Ha!Ha!Ha!

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The Jimmy Dore Show

https://youtu.be/jFNlLNuB_Wc

"Why Elizabeth Warren would lose to Trump."

iyraste1313

......considering that Warren intends to set up a monster centralized bureaucracy to over rule corporations, yet is open to corporate support? A guarantee that this centralized bureaucracy will be corrupted by the most powerful, ya!
Can anyone name any Canadian investigative ombuds office, not totally corrupted by their corporate clients?

NorthReport

Just google Warren as this lady is on fire. Holy smokes!

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Warren's Ethnic Issue Should Not Go Away

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/09/19/warrens-ethnic-issue-should-not-...

"...Warren however, given her background, ideological flexibility, articulated opposition to socialism and abject loyalty oath to capitalism, is at least conceivable as president, if only to keep Sanders from power. (It's likely that the two camps will merge eventually, but the mainstream media wants Warrend to lead the emerging progressive camp.) It wants you to choose her over him, as the better option to both defeat Trump and stave off socialism. And so the media has largely dropped the issue of Warren's problematic ethnic claims..."

What about Warren's 'brownface painting'?

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The Jimmy Dore Show

https://youtu.be/3LeFbqK2Pf8

"Everything that's wrong with Elizabeth Warren."

 

CFR: Elizabeth Warren Answers Our Foreign Policy Questions

https://twitter.com/sarahlazare/status/1176577590322225152

"Elizabeth Warren finally answered CFR's questions and it's bad. The section on Palestine is a mess. She calls for a fortification of NATO, 'containing' China, Russia and Cuba on Venezuela, and she says something racist about population growth in Africa..."

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I like Warren’s campaign approach - I have a plan for that which is proving to be very successful

Jagmeet - are you listening?

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Jonathan Van Ness Explains Why He's Endorsing Elizabeth Warren

The "Queer Eye" star said he was inspired to support the senator after he paid $3,500 to replace his HIV medication last month.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/jonathan-van-ness-elizabeth-warren-endorsement_n_5d8cd4e5e4b0019647a4c41c?ri18n=true

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Wow!

Haa anyone looked at Warren’s chances of winning the Democratic nomination through the bookie’s eyes

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Elizabeth Warren Won't Stand Up to Israel's Crimes

https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1177721696968683522

"Elizabeth Warren's CFR Q&A paints a picture of an establishment candidate lip-synching the Washington consensus on Israel-Palestine and pushing regime change against Venezuela. Her State Dept would be a haven for CNAS and CAP hacks..."

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Elizabeth Warren wants the SEC to crack down on Moody's and S&P

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/investing/elizabeth-warren-sec-ratings-agencies/index.html

JKR

Looks like just like we had a lot of anti-Hillary pro-Trump campaigning here on Babble in 2016 we’re now going to have a lot of anti-Warren Pro-Trump campaigning to endure on Babble for the 2020 US election! My hunch is that Trump’s supporters are going to be very disappointed this time around. I think Trump’s pathological hubris and narcissism are going to lead to his gruesome demise.

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JKR

You are correct about that anti-Hillary, now anti-Warren, although I'm not sure it quite ever stopped.

JKR

NorthReport wrote:

JKR

You are correct about that anti-Hillary, now anti-Warren, although I'm not sure it quite ever stopped.

Yeah, Anti-Hillaryism seems to still be going strong here on Babble even 3 years after Hillary’s lost election even though she won 3 million more votes than Trump.

I think Warren is likely going to win the Democratic nomination and that will likely lead to the ugliest presidential election in memory if Trump is still president for the election which unfortunately he probably will be.

NDPP

"If Elizabeth Warren can't even defend Medicare For All at her own rallies, how can people believe she would fight the establishment for it?"

They can't...

https://twitter.com/AbbyMartin/status/1177262759320276992

 

WATCH: "Elizabeth Warren says her parents had to elope because she was part Cherokee and part Delaware. This entire situation is worse than I had thought."

https://twitter.com/AlytaDeLean/status/1178019629102505986

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Time to give it a break.

Bernie must be  Putin's candidate this time around, so he will get crushed by his GOP buddies, and it seems Putin has a lot of them. 

As much as I like Bernie's ideas, Trump, or whoever heads up the GOP ticket, will label Bernie a Commie, and that will be the end of the Democrats for 2020. 

 

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Bernie must be  Putin's candidate this time around...

 

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Mr Mainstream is obviously back on the Louise Mensch again.

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Putin fans or more seem worried Trump won't be President much longer

Elizabeth Warren is rising everywhere

Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign is, to quote NBA Jam, "on fire". The latest Quinnipiac University national poll out today has Warren at 27% to former Vice President Joe Biden's 25%.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/elizabeth-warren-polls/index.html

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